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Old 03-12-2005, 11:38 AM
Bigdaddydvo Bigdaddydvo is offline
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Default Garry Kasparov

I apologize in advance if since this probably belongs in the Bobby Fischer thread below, but...

With GK now retiring after two decades atop the chess world at the relatively young age of 41, could we see an eventual move to poker?

I remember GK having a few ancillary interests, most notably a seat in the Russian Parliament a few years ago. With his mind (reputedly calculates 4 positions/second) and the proper instruction, I speculate he could play at a world class level in less than a year. There isn't the "Bobby Fischer psycho factor" either.

As a side note, I was always saddened that the chess world was never privy to a Kasparov-Fischer match...who many argue were the two greatest to ever play (myself included).

GK is the most technically sound player ever, but I argue that Fischer was the most creative. I'm reaching way back into my memory here (as I haven't played competitively in over 10 years), but there was a game from the 1960 U.S. Chess championship where Fischer played GM Byrne (sp?). The game was heavily analyzed throughout its play, and most kibitzing GMs thought Byrne was way, way, way ahead in positional advantage. Fischer found one move that almost instantly reversed this perceived advantage, and Byrne resigned a few moves later, leading everyone to conclude that BF had his opponent where he wanted the entire time.
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Old 03-12-2005, 11:48 AM
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Default Re: Garry Kasparov

Memory was hazy, but here's the game:

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1008419
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Old 03-12-2005, 12:04 PM
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Default Re: Garry Kasparov

Which move was the big one? I'm pretty sure I know it, but it's been a while since I played some hardcore chess and my mind might be weak.
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Old 03-12-2005, 12:13 PM
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Default Re: Garry Kasparov

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Which move was the big one? I'm pretty sure I know it, but it's been a while since I played some hardcore chess and my mind might be weak.

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I will guess that it was move 14, knight to d3. Can any chess expert confirm this? I only have a 1400 rating. It seems Byrne is screwed by the 16th move.
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Old 03-12-2005, 04:15 PM
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Default Re: Garry Kasparov

This game is in Fischers 60 memorable games; I believe the key shock move was 18...Nxg2 instead of 18...Nxd1.
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Old 03-12-2005, 04:46 PM
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Default Re: Garry Kasparov

It's coming back to me as I look at this game after a lot of years.

The "monster" move was Fischer's last, the 21...Qd7, when Byrne resigned. The analysts were stunned, assuming Byrne was way ahead the entire game. It wasn't until they saw the 23...Re1!! that they realized Byrne was completely lost.
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Old 03-12-2005, 06:03 PM
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Default Re: Garry Kasparov

Would you mind enlightening a total novice here?
I don't understand why black is ahead, let alone why the game is over...
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Old 03-13-2005, 02:36 AM
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Default Re: Garry Kasparov

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Memory was hazy, but here's the game:

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1008419


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Thanks for the link! I looked at this game for a good half hour just baffled! I found some decent analysis if anyone's interested:
http://www.angelfire.com/games3/AJs0...yrfisrpg0.html

Just when I start to forget about Fischer, a game like this reminds me that he is simply an alien.
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Old 03-14-2005, 02:16 PM
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Default Re: Garry Kasparov

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Memory was hazy, but here's the game:

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1008419

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even though i am horrible at chess, i am addicted to watching these games now.
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Old 03-12-2005, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: Garry Kasparov

A guy like GK would never want to play a game where chance played a large part in determining the result. GK's opponents have said that the GK stare (he has the most piercing eyes I've ever seen) is unnerving -- surely that would work out for him at the poker table. 4 positions/ second? that number is way too low. --wins
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