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Watkinson\'s full house over Awada\'s full hand review.
So, Watkinson opens w/ 99
awada call w/ 22 Doyle is priced in w/ QT suited 789 (hhh flop) Doyle checks, Watkinson checks, awada checks behind. ---Now seeing hte result of the hand here, Watkinson's check worked out real well but does anybody else see checking here as a mistake? On a rainbow non straightening board checking wouldn't be too bad, but this board is 3 connecting cards and ALL hearts, it's relatively threatening to a hand for sure. I think that having a big stack made it possible to check this hand and peel a card off since losing a big pot here wouldn't even cripple lee. Doyle was open ended (no flush of course), but how could lee know that someone wasn't sitting on a heart? --Does everybody think that checking this flop is dangerous at all? The turn card relieved all pressure and the river let him stack awada but i'm still kind of unsure if i'd check on this flop. |
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Re: Watkinson\'s full house over Awada\'s full hand review.
All I can think is that Lee was more interested in busting someone (or getting them to commit chips) than winning what was in the pot.
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Re: Watkinson\'s full house over Awada\'s full hand review.
Awada said in his exit interview that he couldn't put him on a set, because he checked such a scary flop.
I don't hate his check, assuming he's willing to get away from his set if a scary card comes. The pot isn't that big at this point. Also, considering he was up against 2 aggressive opponents, it's likely they would have raised with any kind of big draw. I wouldn't have checked that flop, though. |
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Re: Watkinson\'s full house over Awada\'s full hand review.
He made a very risque move that turned out to make him look like a genius. Let's say you do in fact bet into this pot and have Doyle come over the top with a strong check-raise. What do you do then? You most likely are forced to fold. He got a look at the turn card which paired the board and gave him the top full house. If anything, Lee got extremely lucky that Joe catches a deuce on the river and figures to have the top hand. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Re: Watkinson\'s full house over Awada\'s full hand review.
I dont think he would fold to a doyle checkraise because doyle s most likely hand would be something like AK with the A of hearts. If lee's goal was to keep the pots small this was not a bad way to play. he still could win a big pot if no hearts came and he could still maintain his chip lead if a heart did come.
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Re: Watkinson\'s full house over Awada\'s full hand review.
Sexton really ripped Awada after this hand. I don't understand why. The hand gets checked around. Then you hit your hand and someone bets into you? You're damn right I'm going all in and if I bust out here, so be it.
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Re: Watkinson\'s full house over Awada\'s full hand review.
I agree. After hitting his full house Awada is supposed to fold?
I know the cliche that the mark of a great player is being able to lay down a strong hand..yada yada. Suppose Awada wasn't beat, and threw that hand away, the uproar over his timidity/stupidity would be deafening here. Frank |
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Re: Watkinson\'s full house over Awada\'s full hand review.
I think Sexton's point of criticism was that the only hand that would call his re-raise all-in would be a stronger hand. So he's better off just calling. But if I have that board and someone goes over the top of me, I can't see that two helping him. So if I had a straight, or maybe a 7, I'm still feeling good about my hand.
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Re: Watkinson\'s full house over Awada\'s full hand review.
Fold? No, not to that bet. It was 789 all hearts - check - then the board pairs - check around again then a duece hits on the river. Lee bets into you a resasonable amount(that dueces full should call rather than push) - I think a call is better.
3 cards to a SF and a paired board - you have dueces full and go all in over the top - what worse hands do you get to call you? The Ax flush? I say Sexton was dead on.... I call and hope to snap off Lee or make him show me the best hand. Why risk it all in a virtually unraised pot with that board? Also, Joe said he couldn't put him on a set - so what do you think Joe thought Lee had - that he could beat if his all in was called? |
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Re: Watkinson\'s full house over Awada\'s full hand review.
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Also, Joe said he couldn't put him on a set - so what do you think Joe thought Lee had - that he could beat if his all in was called? [/ QUOTE ] Awada probably thought he had an ace high flush. Why wouldn't the flush call, because of the paired board? I don't put anyone on a set because you'd think a set would have bet the flop (like Awada said) so the only boat I could see was something like 8's full of 7's. But I think it's more likely he's either got the flush or nothing. If he's got nothing, he's not calling ANY raise. But if you think he's slowplaying, it means he really likes his hand, and I honestly don't know that you can lay that down when you really don't have solid evidence that points to a full house, so I think there's a good chance Awada's all-in gets called. No matter how good these guys are, they aren't psychic; they have to work with the information given to them, and given the information out there, Awada had to suspect Watkinson had the ace high flush that he would call the all-in with. Is a call the right move??? And if not, what then would be an appropriate raise? |
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