KK 3-bet scary turn card

DavidC · #1 03-07-2005, 12:35 AM

MP2 is LAA, CO is LAP.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP2 raises, MP3 calls, CO calls, 2 folds, Hero 3-bets, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, CO bets, Hero raises, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP2 raises, CO calls, Hero 3-bets...

cold_cash · #2 03-07-2005, 12:42 AM

Why are you checking the flop?

Turn seems okay.

milesdyson · #3 03-07-2005, 12:43 AM

With your read on MP2, I'm not attempting to check raise this flop. I'd rather bet and have him raise than check and trap the field on this board.

The way you played it, I wouldn't 3-bet the turn even with CO trapped.

deepsquat · #4 03-07-2005, 12:44 AM

Id put him on a set of queens, tough spot. id probably reluctantly see it thru

ArturiusX · #5 03-07-2005, 12:44 AM

Toughy. I'd call down, MP2 raise could mean AQ/KQ, maybe QJ is he's a maniac though. KT is also a possibility (less likely because you have 2 of the Ks). I wouldn't 3-bet this though, even CO could have hit his straight.

ArturiusX · #6 03-07-2005, 12:45 AM

Oh yeah, I dont check raise this. I dont think you'll scare anyone drawing to a straight off here, the pots big enough for them to continue regardless. I'd just bet.

DavidC · #7 03-07-2005, 01:28 AM

It'd be 7.5:1, with 8:1 strongly possible, and even more than that with some fishy types behind.

That being said, it's enough for it to make it risky for them to continue with gutshots.

I'll have to think about it, though... a lot of people didn't like my flop check raise. I figured that I played it like unimproved overcards, until I raised.

davelin · #8 03-07-2005, 01:34 AM

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I'll have to think about it, though... a lot of people didn't like my flop check raise. I figured that I played it like unimproved overcards, until I raised.

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This last part makes no sense to me.

DavidC · #9 03-07-2005, 02:01 AM

By checking the flop I told people I had AK/AQ

DavidC · #10 03-07-2005, 01:46 AM

Flop:

Please help me out guys. I haven't got a bloody clue as to what hands I should be protecting on what boards and therefore when to try for a checkraise.

Turn:

If I'm behind to a set, it's to 99 or 66, based on the PF action.

Vs. 2pr, I have a bunch of outs. I'm actually more worried about QJ than any other hand, in terms of what's likely to beat me.

Vs 99, 66, I'm in trouble, but the LAA guy doesn't have either of those hands: he'd'a been all over me.

The CO is calling. I can only presume this means he hasn't hit his straight, though it might be bottom straight. He could have a set or two pair though.

Both of the straights are really weird hands for MP to have after a pfr, so I nailed him with the raise.

Edit: I have 4 outs to fill a straight too... though I should expect less than that due to the action.