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Old 03-03-2005, 08:05 PM
Maulik Maulik is offline
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Default SNG $10 v. $20 & $20 v $30?

I have the bankroll required to play either buyin, my question is the play similar at both levels. If the play is similar then, I don't see a reason to grind out the $10 tourneys when I could be using my time in a similar fashion to play $20 tourneys.

And, since I'm curious, what about $20 v $30?
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Old 03-03-2005, 08:22 PM
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Default Re: SNG $10 v. $20 & $20 v $30?

You better hope that Irieguy is in a good mood when he reads this [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 03-03-2005, 08:33 PM
The Yugoslavian The Yugoslavian is offline
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Default Re: SNG $10 v. $20 & $20 v $30?

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You better hope that Irieguy is in a good mood when he reads this [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Hey, c'mon, that can't be our answer to *everything*!

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Old 03-03-2005, 08:38 PM
The Yugoslavian The Yugoslavian is offline
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Default Re: SNG $10 v. $20 & $20 v $30?

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I have the bankroll required to play either buyin, my question is the play similar at both levels.


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You're missing a question mark. But I'll answer anyway. They are similar yet different. Both are beatable but by different degrees. I have no idea if you would beat one but not the other. Just don't play the $6s on party.

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If the play is similar then, I don't see a reason to grind out the $10 tourneys when I could be using my time in a similar fashion to play $20 tourneys.


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But the play won't be of the same quality. Do you see why?

[insert game theory explanation here]

[insert explanation of why that doesn't matter if you can beat both levels solidly here]

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And, since I'm curious, what about $20 v $30?

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[insert game theory explanation here]

Yeah, each level gets harder. The jump from 30 to 50 is probably the biggest but the jump from 50 to 100 and 100 to 200 is also quite big (I've heard).

Also, implicit in your post you assume you can beat any of the lower limit buying SNGs, no problem. If this is the case, and you have the bankroll. Play whatever will make you happy.

Yugoslav
(Whose dad would *never* defer to him on any subject, [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] )
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Old 03-04-2005, 01:20 AM
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Default Re: SNG $10 v. $20 & $20 v $30?

in feb i have a 1% roi at 30+3 but 24% roi at 50+5. 300+ games in each during that month.

go figure...

if you are a winning player at 10+1, then you'll be a winning player at 30+3. just make sure you have 50x your bankroll before playing at that level.

in dec, i had a -50 SnG swing at 30+3. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
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Old 03-04-2005, 01:40 AM
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if you are a winning player at 10+1, then you'll be a winning player at 30+3

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I hope this true.

I just tried to move up to the 30's and lost $450 in 20 games back to the 20s for now.

-50 sorry that happened to you, but that makes me feel better in a strange way.

I've done real well at the 20s, but at this point feel like the 30s are unbeatable.
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Old 03-04-2005, 03:01 AM
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if you are a winning player at 10+1, then you'll be a winning player at 30+3. just make sure you have 50x your bankroll before playing at that level.

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This is absolultely true. And if you're having trouble, you are likely playing too tight. And if you really want to increase your ROI, sit to the right of TheYugoslav.
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Old 03-04-2005, 02:03 PM
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Default Re: SNG $10 v. $20 & $20 v $30?

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-50 sorry that happened to you, but that makes me feel better in a strange way.


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I know exactly how you feel. During my last bad run I found solace in other's misfortune. Although I wish everyone the best of luck, it still helps to hear you're not the only one struggling. If I can remember correctly, I think it was an old post by Daliman and one of his bad streaks that made me feel better. I really like the candidness on this forum. Especialy because the caliber of the players is so high. To hear AA Suited and Yugoslav running bad you know it's just the nature of poker.
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Old 03-04-2005, 04:26 PM
Maulik Maulik is offline
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It's great to hear people being honest with their play and that they are losing. When you invest money in a company or put your own time in for something (such as your own business or I hear people play poker around here) you may run dry for some time before you hit gold, or perhaps bronze. Profit is inevitable at some point if you keep at.

You may lose the shirt off your back at the same time, but if you saw that coming good, if not shame on you, for you were not being fair to yourself and accepting such consequences.

It may take you a few years before you are able to resolve things or as many as five companies (for entrepreneurs) they say before you get going with 1 you can expect to fail the first 4 times.

I'm just glad more often than not that this forum is providing me with a good picture of what I can expect, for that I thank you.
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Old 03-04-2005, 02:38 AM
The Yugoslavian The Yugoslavian is offline
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in dec, i had a -50 SnG swing at 30+3. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

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Yeah. But just wait until that happens to you at the $55s.

Then you'll be both [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] and [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img].

Yugoslav
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