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03-03-2005, 04:18 AM
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5-10, KK hand.
Party Poker 5-10.
Games seems slightly loose, and normally aggressive. UTG open limps, in Early middle position, I have K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], and raise. LMP, and CO coldcall, the BB calls, and UTG limpreraises. Wondering if he has Aces, I call, and everyone else comes along. five to the flop for 15 SBs. Flop 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] BB checks, UTG bets, I raise, hoping to fold some people, and find out if UTG does have aces. Behind me, it goes call, call, call, call. 5 to the turn for 25Sbs. Turn, 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. The BB bets out. UTG calls, I wonder if he is playing a nine this way, or he could have a couple of spades, and he thinks it is some kind of value/semibluff/outcleaning bet. I'm still a little worried about UTG having aces, and now I have the additional problem of someone might have a nine. I'm probably way ahead/ way behind, but against 5 players, and I don't know how many outs they all might have. I can't find my way to a raise here, but that might be the best play. To noone's surprise who has read this far, the two late position players, call, and call. 5 to the river, for 17.5 BBs. River Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Now, the BB checks, and UTG checks as well. I think that they might be trapping the aggressive bozo in the middle, but I decide that I will be sick if this gets checked through, and I am ahead. I bet, hoping that if I get raised, it is by someone who just caught a queen, because I am planning on calling one bet if I do get raised. So, out of four streets, how many did I play well on? 
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#2
03-03-2005, 04:31 AM
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Re: 5-10, KK hand.
Hi Bob,
I would cap preflop here with your kings. Will he have AA sometimes? Yes, but he may also hold AK or utter crap. This is even more heightened by the fact this is multiway. You don't even have to correct that often to make capping the +EV play here. Even if he does have AA you may still beat him with a set. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] The flop is a no brainer. The turn is interesting. It is indeed a good semibluffing card being a nine and a spade, though I suspect you will be losing most of the time here. However, those semibluffing possibilities plus your ability to river a set makes this a call, though you need to be wary of any action behind you. Once it's checked to you on the river, you have an easy bet. BB may be tricky enough to checkraise here (and I think you should fold if he does) and UTG should not have AA here because he would have 3-bet the flop. [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Kailia
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#3
03-03-2005, 06:42 AM
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Re: 5-10, KK hand.
Pretty good analysis for your 5th post.
I thought it was still possible, after the flop that UTG had AA. He might have called the flop, hoping to get a checkraise in on the turn. He already limp reraised, so he must have some tendencies to play trickily.
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#4
03-03-2005, 04:33 AM
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Re: 5-10, KK hand.
bob,
- i'd have capped preflop, all those limpers make up for the rare occasion that you are up against AA from the reraiser, plus getting some of them to fold just adds dead money to the pot. - the flop raise is standard. - not sure about the turn, i still think you should raise b/c anybody with 2 spades just picked up a bd flush draw. i'm not sure if it was a rainbow flop that would change it either way though. - river bet is nice. curious what everybody else thinks about the turn, imo that's the only really debatable part.
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#9
03-03-2005, 06:45 AM
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Re: 5-10, KK hand.
Yes, I should have capped preflop.
On the turn, the pot size makes my raise almost a freeroll. If I get reraised, I still am not losing theorhetical dollars, because the pot is big enough that I have the odds to draw to my two outer. If the BB has 66 or 33, I have 4 outs, instead of 2.
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