Give me a frop line

sfer · #1 03-01-2005, 11:53 PM

Experienced players will see this one clearly so let the new guys take a crack.

Coldcallers are VPIP 40 and PFR 5 or so players. Generally passive. Villain is about a 20/10, so tight and aggressive. I've been playing very few hands, so I'm probably viewed as tight. What's my frop pran?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, 2 folds, Button 3-bets, 2 folds, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero...

NateDog · #2 03-01-2005, 11:57 PM

Allright, I'll take a shot, get it wrong, and learn something.

Hero leads the flop expecting that Villain raises and faces the field with 2 cold.

davelin · #3 03-01-2005, 11:58 PM

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Allright, I'll take a shot, get it wrong, and learn something.

Hero leads the flop expecting that Villain raises and faces the field with 2 cold.

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Villain is on the button

NateDog · #4 03-02-2005, 12:01 AM

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Allright, I'll take a shot, get it wrong, and learn something.

Hero leads the flop expecting that Villain raises and faces the field with 2 cold.

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Villain is on the button

[/ QUOTE ] See, I'm retarded. Play poker with me, I'm fun to watch.

Checks with the intention of C/R'ing to face the field w/2 and get it HU.

VBM · #5 03-02-2005, 01:46 AM

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Checks with the intention of C/R'ing to face the field w/2 and get it HU.

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I like this line. this flop probably didn't help anyone with big cards.

LPP's in between will check to TAG on the button who will auto-bet, and raising is good. LAG's betwn will either fold or passive callers between may be chasing a flush or trying to pair an A or something...

3rdEye · #6 03-03-2005, 08:46 PM

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Allright, I'll take a shot, get it wrong, and learn something.

Hero leads the flop expecting that Villain raises and faces the field with 2 cold.

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Villain is on the button

[/ QUOTE ] See, I'm retarded. Play poker with me, I'm fun to watch.

Checks with the intention of C/R'ing to face the field w/2 and get it HU.

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That's what I'd do too.

Shillx · #7 03-02-2005, 12:00 AM

You're not as bad as the last guy who came down here. The 1st line of his post was "Assume a typical 40/80 table." [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

If the guy is smarter then you (very highly doubtful), he will give himself a free card when he is beat and bet when he is ahead. So if that is the case, you are in a tough spot here.

Brad

Redd · #8 03-02-2005, 01:30 AM

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If the guy is smarter then you (very highly doubtful), he will give himself a free card when he is beat and bet when he is ahead. So if that is the case, you are in a tough spot here.

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Villain would take a free card on the flop with something like AK[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], AQ[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or even AK[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]? I'd totally bet all of these hands if checked to on this flop. But, then again, I'm not smarter than sfer.

Shillx · #9 03-02-2005, 01:33 AM

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If the guy is smarter then you (very highly doubtful), he will give himself a free card when he is beat and bet when he is ahead. So if that is the case, you are in a tough spot here.

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Villain would take a free card on the flop with something like AK[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], AQ[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or even AK[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]? I'd totally bet all of these hands if checked to on this flop. But, then again, I'm not smarter than sfer.

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I think he bets every hand that he 3-bets preflop. There are very few people who will 3-bet preflop and then check in a 4 way pot on the flop. Some people will pull this play with a monster, but he would have to have 99 for this to be the case. I believe that this guy will bet AK on the flop but you never know.

Brad

GrunchCan · #10 03-02-2005, 12:33 AM

Bump.

Every micros poster and lurker should respond to this thread.

Don't be afraid of being wrong.