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02-25-2005, 01:13 AM
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I don\'t want to Hold\'em
Ok, I am learning the game according to my plan. I have a question I have not seen addressed by the books or the forum.
I am in a hand with AKs. I get to the flop and it is junk, pure junk. Now the books show this hand and it allways turns out well, but in real life it just is not the case. I have been folding but wonder what it says to the table. Maybe they figure I was chasing with bad cards or that I was chasing with good cards. Do you think it matters? My understanding on this hand is that it is worth a raise and possibly a reraise considering possition and the other players habbits. So if I have bet the hand strong what message am I sending the table if I fold. A few times it has been checked to me and I still folded because I really did not see the wisdom in playing the hand further even with a free card because if an A came I would tip my hand when I bet. Just looking for some thoughts on this. Thanks 
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#2
02-25-2005, 01:23 AM
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Re: I don\'t want to Hold\'em
Oh ...
my.
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02-25-2005, 01:47 AM
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Re: I don\'t want to Hold\'em
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[ QUOTE ] Oh ... my. [/ QUOTE ] Hahaha... sucker. [/ QUOTE ] You are such an insufferable idiot.
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02-25-2005, 01:27 AM
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Re: I don\'t want to Hold\'em
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A few times it has been checked to me and I still folded because I really did not see the wisdom in playing the hand further even with a free card because if an A came I would tip my hand when I bet. [/ QUOTE ] And right about here is where your post lost all its credibility...
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#7
02-25-2005, 09:37 AM
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Re: I don\'t want to Hold\'em
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And right about here is where your post lost all its credibility... [/ QUOTE ] Well at least you this was on the second to last sentence. I know that my knowledge does not approach most of the posters here and that is why I come here to ask questions, credible or not. I just have problems with this hand post flop when it doesn't hit and I am looking for how to play it in this situation. I see it as a hand with little future if someone has a pair of 2.
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#8
02-25-2005, 09:43 AM
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Re: I don\'t want to Hold\'em
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I see it as a hand with little future if someone has a pair of 2. [/ QUOTE ] as in 50%? a hand that has little future is one that is folded without when it's free to check. in sshe, how many outs does miller say AK to a rag flop have? you read it every day; check and report back. that's how much future it has.
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#9
02-25-2005, 10:41 AM
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Re: I don\'t want to Hold\'em
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how many outs does miller say AK to a rag flop have? you read it every day; check and report back. that's how much future it has. [/ QUOTE ] As I understand Miller he says that AK has three outs because of the chance that someone holds KK or a QQ with a queen on the board he says that the outs must be discounted and should be played at 1.5
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#10
02-25-2005, 11:52 AM
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Re: I don\'t want to Hold\'em
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[ QUOTE ] how many outs does miller say AK to a rag flop have? you read it every day; check and report back. that's how much future it has. [/ QUOTE ] As I understand Miller he says that AK has three outs because of the chance that someone holds KK or a QQ with a queen on the board he says that the outs must be discounted and should be played at 1.5 [/ QUOTE ] without having my book in front of me, i've got to say that's just not true. give a page number please, and a quote, where he says that you need to discout your 6 outs by 50% b/c of the possibility that someone's made top set or has KK. you probably have at least 4 outs. and your opponents probably weren't improved by the flop. and some of your opponents will probably fold to your bet. and i guess you should usually bet here. checking is second best. folding is the worst choice, and it's not close.
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