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I dont raise 1 4.55%
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Old 02-24-2005, 05:11 PM
4thstreetpete 4thstreetpete is offline
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Default POLL - PP 15/30 - what percentage of players use PT, PV, GT+, etc...

I'm pretty convinced that the reason why many people feel that the games are getting tougher is because a lot more people are using some form of tool like pokertracker, playview, or gametime + etc.
So I'm just curious, what percentage of players at the 15/30 level and above do you think are using PT,PV, GT+ etc..
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Old 02-24-2005, 05:16 PM
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Default Re: POLL - PP 15/30 - what percentage of players use PT, PV, GT+, etc.

Note that these are two very different questions:
1) What percentage of people who play the 15/30 use PT/PV/GT+ ?
2) At a given table, on average how many people seated at the table use these tools?

The people who use these tools tend to be the ones who play a lot of hours and who multitable heavily. The casual players who play a few hours a week tend not to use these tools. Thus, even though the percentage of people in the player pool who use them is probably quite low, the average number of people using them at a given table is not.
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Old 02-24-2005, 05:23 PM
4thstreetpete 4thstreetpete is offline
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Default Re: POLL - PP 15/30 - what percentage of players use PT, PV, GT+, etc.

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Note that these are two very different questions:
1) What percentage of people who play the 15/30 use PT/PV/GT+ ?
2) At a given table, on average how many people seated at the table use these tools?

The people who use these tools tend to be the ones who play a lot of hours and who multitable heavily. The casual players who play a few hours a week tend not to use these tools. Thus, even though the percentage of people in the player pool who use them is probably quite low, the average number of people using them at a given table is not.

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Point taken. I'm pretty sure that the casual player who plays maybe once a week don't use these tools. I just want a general idea of what the community feels about the percentages of all players. I'm pretty convinced it's pretty high now hence why the games seems to be a little tougher?
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Old 02-24-2005, 06:49 PM
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Default Re: POLL - PP 15/30 - what percentage of players use PT, PV, GT+, etc.

I think less than 30% of people seated at a table use GT/PV. Look at the image I posted. image The majority of players have a significant stat defect. Too tight, too loose, too passive preflop.

Krishan
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Old 02-24-2005, 07:06 PM
Nate tha' Great Nate tha' Great is offline
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Default Re: POLL - PP 15/30 - what percentage of players use PT, PV, GT+, etc.

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I think less than 30% of people seated at a table use GT/PV. Look at the image I posted. image

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Yeah, I think people are overestimating.
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Old 02-24-2005, 08:25 PM
Michael Davis Michael Davis is offline
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Default Re: POLL - PP 15/30 - what percentage of players use PT, PV, GT+, etc...

I don't want to vote because it doesn't apply to me, but then I can't see the results of the poll.

-Michael
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Old 02-24-2005, 08:33 PM
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Default Re: POLL - PP 15/30 - what percentage of players use PT, PV, GT+, etc.

0-10% - 3 09%
11-20% - 6 19%
21-30% - 6 19%
31-40% - 5 16%
41-50% - 5 16%
51-60% - 0 0%
61-70% - 3 09%
71-80% - 1 03%
81-90% - 0 0%
91-100%!!!!!!!!!!! - 2 06%
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Old 02-24-2005, 09:34 PM
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Default Re: POLL - PP 15/30 - what percentage of players use PT, PV, GT+, etc.

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You must vote before you can view the results of this poll

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They have this for a reason
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Old 02-24-2005, 10:18 PM
krishanleong krishanleong is offline
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Default Re: POLL - PP 15/30 - what percentage of players use PT, PV, GT+, etc.

It makes sense to have that sometimes. In this case it I don't think it matters. A poster said he would like to know the stats without tainting the survey since he doesn't play 15/30. (I presume)

Krishan
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Old 02-24-2005, 11:32 PM
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Default Re: POLL - PP 15/30 - what percentage of players use PT, PV, GT+, etc...

whoops sorry about that. I tried to edit the poll but it won't let me now. Basically this question should apply to all limits as well.
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