3 way action with QQ...what would u do?

[ObnxNole]

Playin online 5/10. I have about $1700 and two others have about $1200. I have Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in the big blind and am playing with a maniac and a decent player who thinks is good but is just bad enough to lose all of his money.
Maniac min raises on the button to $20. Big blind re-raises to $75. I have seen him do this before to isolate the maniac and both times before he has had decent hands. I call the re-raise because the stacks are deep enough in my opinion and QQ three handed is a monster. Maniac calls and three of us take the flop.
Flop: J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] rainbow pot($225).
Big blind leads out for $175--- now what?????? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[wontons]

for this reason i do not like not popping it preflop find out where you are...i wouldnt go to the felt with taht board holding qq but i feel like theres a good chance your ahead..ur not gonna feel comfortable with any cards coming a Q can give sumone the boardway and if A or K comes then what..

[Knyte260]

Preflop you played ok, you could raise here also, its a toss up.

Min raise the flop. Hope the maniac has AJ, KJ to call, expect anything short of that folding. If he goes all in or heavily over the top, expect a hand superior to yours at this point.

Expect the preflop raiser to call with several hands weaker than yours, and raise only if you are losing.

-Chris

[Kaz The Original]

Pretty bad flop for you all together. If solid player has a PP, you're screwed.

[okayplayer]

I would likely lay this down. The only real hands that you're ahead of here is AK or AJ, and I doubt that he is leading into 2 people who called a re-raise with AK (esp. since I'm assuming he views you as a good player).

[fsuplayer]

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I would likely lay this down. The only real hands that you're ahead of here is AK or AJ, and I doubt that he is leading into 2 people who called a re-raise with AK (esp. since I'm assuming he views you as a good player).

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your post makes sense if this was a more full game, but 3 handed, villian will have a much larger range of hands here.

[fsuplayer]

Make it $400 and tread lightly after that.

fold if he pushes.

[Loci]

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Make it $400 and tread lightly after that.

fold if he pushes.

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I agree. I think that you're probably looking at A/J or 10 from the good player, but a lot of maniacs love to play J/10 for the straight possibilities.

-why no raise preflop? Not necessarily bad, just curious what the motivation was. Three way, you're not looking at being behind here, but giving it an extra pop isn't always good if you're looking to take down a big pot short-handed. Just curious, that's all.

[queenhigh]

preflop: i like not raising. even a maniac will fold a lot of hands after his raise is reraised twice, and SB will put you on a wide range of hands since you might be hoping to hit a flop and bust one of them.

flop: i think it comes down to how smart the sb is and what kind of maniac the maniac is. what range of hands do you think the SB would lead into the maniac versus checkraise or check call.

[OrangeCat]

If a flop like this was going to scare you, you should have re-reised PF in hope of forcing the BB out with hands like jj-77, JTs, JQs. The maniac might still have called you with all sorts of trash. What you are looking for is HU agaisnt the maniac, right? If you think BB is trying to isolate himself with the maniac, you have to raise BB if you want to take that away.

IMHO, it's raise or fold on the flop. If you think BB has AJ or KQ make him pay. If he comes over the top it's either a JJ, TT, JT, or a pure bluff.