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Old 02-19-2005, 04:03 PM
Tyler Durden Tyler Durden is offline
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Level One. 25/50. I have about 11k.

Two EP limpers, I make it t350 in MP w/ AK. Folded back to the first limper who reraises to 1200. Folded to me.

Do I call? It seemed to me and really felt like he had QQ or JJ. Let's just assume he doesn't have AA or KK, for sake of argument. So if I hit the flop I can win the pot. But he may check and fold if the flop comes A or K high. Meaning I won't make any more than what is already in there.

Or should I reraise, and show him I'm committed to the pot?

You guys see my problem here?
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Old 02-19-2005, 04:06 PM
Tyler Durden Tyler Durden is offline
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Default Re: Bahamas hand

If I put in the third raise, obviously I'm willing to go all-in and take the coinflip in level one for all of my chips (not sure if I had him covered, it was close either way).

But should I take the flip this easy?

Do I have any folding equity? Would I put in a third raise w/ KK or AA or would I smoothcall for deception?

Or could I flatcall his limp reraise and push over him on the flop, representing AA or KK? This seems too risky.

Thoughts?
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Old 02-19-2005, 04:09 PM
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If you make it 3.5k I can't imagine that his push could be anything but AA/KK and I would then fold to a push. If he calls its much much trickier to play the flop.
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Old 02-19-2005, 04:14 PM
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Default Re: Bahamas hand

I like the reraise to gain more information in the hand. If you just call, you'll be hard pressed to make a move if your ace or king does not hit, and furthermore you don't know for sure if you're ahead if you hit your A or K (though it's safe to say a majority of the time you will be).
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Old 02-19-2005, 04:24 PM
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Default Re: Bahamas hand

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If you just call, you'll be hard pressed to make a move if your ace or king does not hit

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Its harder to make a move on the pot if you miss with AK after you put in the third raise. Now on the flop the pot is 7.5k and thats about what you have in your stack. You have to make a big decision here with very little wiggle room.
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Old 02-19-2005, 04:31 PM
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Default Re: Bahamas hand

He does have position, though. Plus, the third raise is not going to give off a read of AK to villain, don't you think?

I will admit though that I wouldn't know how to address the flop properly if I put in a third raise and the flop missed the AK. If the flop was all rags, how can villain get away from their hand, assuming hero's read? I could see them maybe laying down JJ or TT, but for the most part you're screwed with the pot about the size of your chip stack
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Old 02-19-2005, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: Bahamas hand

If you reraise to T3000, what do you do if he goes all in?

How many chips did he have?
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Old 02-19-2005, 06:29 PM
Mike Gallo Mike Gallo is offline
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I might call the raise and see what develops.

I do not like to gamble that early in a tournament. I had a similiar situation last night that I posted.
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Old 02-19-2005, 06:38 PM
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IMO calling is bad. You only hit 30% of the time on the flop, and those times that you do hit your implied odds are 0, so you really don't have the odds to draw (this is the rare case where you can be pretty sure your up against a pocket pair).
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Old 02-19-2005, 06:43 PM
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IMO calling is bad.

I can see your point.
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