10/20 hand, lots of action... running trips

wheelz · #1 02-18-2005, 01:21 PM

Don't know much about the two involved in this hand, they haven't gotten out of line yet, but appear to be on the LAG side like the rest of the table.

10/20 Hold'em (5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
3 folds, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (3 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, Button calls, SB 3-bets, Hero calls, Button caps, SB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.5 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Button bets, SB calls, Hero calls.

River: (10.5 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero ???

Final Pot: 12 BB

PokerNoob · #2 02-18-2005, 02:41 PM

Since you have two spades to the K in your hand, I'd be more likely to think that SB and Button are on made hands of some sort, rather than pumping flush draws. The button openlimp/flop cap is often a slowplayed big ace, although once in awhile you'll see 65 from the loosies. I think I want to bet and call a raise here, because you sure don't want it checked through if SB has an Ace and will pay to see. If somebody flopped a set, oh well.

ggbman · #3 02-18-2005, 02:54 PM

Raise and call a 3 bet. Hands like A7, A4. maybe 56 of spades are likely here. To not raise this river you have to him him on 77 or 44. I think a raise is generally correct.

Jeff W · #4 02-18-2005, 04:54 PM

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Raise and call a 3 bet. Hands like A7, A4. maybe 56 of spades are likely here. To not raise this river you have to him him on 77 or 44. I think a raise is generally correct.

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AA is a possibility, but I agree with you that he should try to check/raise the field for value.

Klak · #5 02-18-2005, 02:55 PM

i think youre up against 2 pair here. i would bet that river since youre still likly to get called even though the guys 2 pair just got counterfitted. you can pretty safely fold to a raise at that point.

SB looks like he is on a worse flush draw and button either has 2 pair or a set.

ggbman · #6 02-18-2005, 07:29 PM

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i think youre up against 2 pair here. i would bet that river since youre still likly to get called even though the guys 2 pair just got counterfitted. you can pretty safely fold to a raise at that point.

SB looks like he is on a worse flush draw and button either has 2 pair or a set.

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You actually think hero should fold to a river raise getting somewhere in the neighborhood of 11-1 with top trips king kicker? That's got to be among the worst things you can do. It would still be an easy call, heck 3 betting is better then folding there.

Danenania · #7 02-18-2005, 03:53 PM

I would check and raise and call a 3-bet.

wheelz · #8 02-19-2005, 09:05 AM

I thought about it for a few seconds then bet, button raised, SB folded, I had to call, button showed AA and raked in the pot.

My first instinct on the river was to go for the check-raise, but it seems playing it that way only costs more when I'm behind and misses bets when I'm ahead.

With me holding the nut flush draw, the only hands I can see the button playing this way are a set or 2 pair (although the open-limp on the button really confused me,) or something crazy like a big ace, smaller flush draw, or straight draw. If he has 2 pair and I check, he likely checks behind the river and I miss 1-2 bets. If he has a draw of some sorts and I check, he might stab at it, but likely gives up and I probably miss a bet out of the SB. If he has a set and I check-raise, I'm probably calling a 3-bet on the river from him in a pot this size. Him having a big ace is probably the only situation in which I'd actually be getting value by check-raising, and I really don't put him on anything besides 2-pair or a set.

Am I missing something? The more I look at the hand the more I think betting has got to be better than checking.

dave44 · #9 02-18-2005, 07:10 PM

Hero checks with the intention of raising. Button should have been raising pf with 44 and 77 so it looks like you've got him.

carsonj · #10 02-19-2005, 03:26 AM

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Hero checks with the intention of raising. Button should have been raising pf with 44 and 77 so it looks like you've got him.

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sorry, but if the button has 44 or 77, hero's set is loosing this pot to a boat.