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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.5 BB (9 handed) converter
SB ($23.5) Hero ($27.95) UTG ($25.15) UTG+1 ($67.45) MP1 :<font color="#A500AF">(JackAttack)</font> ($27.35) MP2 ($7.3) MP3 :<font color="#A500AF">(ShortStack)</font> ($6.9) CO ($27.9) Button ($42.05) Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 :<font color="#A500AF">(JackAttack)</font> raises to $1</font>, MP2 calls $1, MP3 :<font color="#A500AF">(ShortStack)</font> calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $1, SB calls $0.75, Hero calls $0.50. Flop: ($6) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font> SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">JackAttack bets $4</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">ShortStack raises to $5.9 (All-In)</font>, Button folds, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $26.95 (All-In)</font>, JackAttack calls $22.35 (All-In). Turn: ($65.20) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 3 all-in)</font> River: ($65.20) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 3 all-in)</font> Final Pot: $65.20 <font color="#009B00">Main Pot: $23.70, between Hero, JackAttack and ShortStack.</font> > <font color="#FFFFFF">Pot won by Hero ($23.70).</font> <font color="#009B00">Pot 2: $40.90, between Hero and JackAttack.</font> > <font color="#FFFFFF">Pot won by Hero ($40.90).</font> <font color="#009B00">Pot 3: $0.59, returned to Hero.</font> Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF"> Hero has 3c 6h (three of a kind, sixes). JackAttack has Jc Jh (two pair, jacks and sixes). ShortStack has Kh Ks (two pair, kings and sixes). Outcome: Hero wins $65.19. </font> |
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Why were you calling the preflop bet with that crap anyway? Just looks like you gave somebody some bad beats. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Why were you calling the preflop bet with that crap anyway? Just looks like you gave somebody some bad beats. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] So you advocate giving away every Big Blind without a fight? If you do that someone is going to raise your Big Blind every single orbit. You are going to put a weak raise in on my Big Blind and I think I can outplay you postflop... If that is the case I am calling with any 2 cards. |
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You are going to put a weak raise in on my Big Blind and I think I can outplay you postflop... If that is the case I am calling with any 2 cards. [/ QUOTE ] I also agree. Esp. with 5 other people in the hand. calling a min raise from the BB with $5.50 in the pot isnt exactly bad. |
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I also agree. Esp. with 5 other people in the hand. calling a min raise from the BB with $5.50 in the pot isnt exactly bad. [/ QUOTE ]I was curious about this statement, so I thought of five other hands that could possibly see the flop in a very loose microlimit game (I'm thinking .01/.02 not the OP's level, but bear with me): ad qc, th 9c, 9s 7s, kc 6c, 2h 2c Sticking these into the twodimes calculator along with the BB's 63o gives BB an 8.2% chance of winning the hand. That sounds like neutral EV (11-1), except on most of those hands BB wins through miracle runner-runner stuff. Since he will have had to fold post-flop against stuff as harmless as Q85r, he'll never get those outs. To my novice brain, there's only four groups of hands that can flop that can make me stay post-flop: x66, x33, x63r, and x45. And I doubt that any of these have decent implied odds unless the third card is A, K, or maybe Q. Easy fold for me. |
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So you advocate giving away every Big Blind without a fight? If you do that someone is going to raise your Big Blind every single orbit. You are going to put a weak raise in on my Big Blind and I think I can outplay you postflop... If that is the case I am calling with any 2 cards. [/ QUOTE ] No. He asked why you called a raise that was coldcalled by half the table with a trash hand. Are you aware that this is not a steal situation? |
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[ QUOTE ] So you advocate giving away every Big Blind without a fight? If you do that someone is going to raise your Big Blind every single orbit. You are going to put a weak raise in on my Big Blind and I think I can outplay you postflop... If that is the case I am calling with any 2 cards. [/ QUOTE ] No. He asked why you called a raise that was coldcalled by half the table with a trash hand. Are you aware that this is not a steal situation? [/ QUOTE ] Yes I get that the raiser is not trying to steal he is trying to pump up the pot. I figure him for AQ, AJ or maybe a suited ace. When I saw both opponents had big pocket pairs I was suprised they waited till the flop to put in a real raise. If I raise with JJ a minimum raise pre-flop and someone pushes all-in after the flop with an aggressive check-raise I need to make a tough laydown. If I see someone folding their Big Blind for a min raise alot then I am going to raise any old hand I plan to play against them every single time. I think the loss of the $0.50 is nothing compared to the image that I am going to fold to any raise out of my blinds. |
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If I see someone folding their Big Blind for a min raise alot then I am going to raise any old hand I plan to play against them every single time. I think the loss of the $0.50 is nothing compared to the image that I am going to fold to any raise out of my blinds. [/ QUOTE ] Yes. Defend your $0.50 BB to the death. Can't you see that this particular minraise isn't a steal and that you're like totally crushed here in like 3 spots? |
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![]() [/ QUOTE ]So you advocate giving away every Big Blind without a fight? [/ QUOTE ] No only those that aren't worth fighting for, you know, crap like 63 off. If you think crappy big blinds are worth defending, PM me the site you play on and your screen name. As bad as your opponents played their big PP's preflop, your blind defense was worse. You got a lucky flop. Calling even a min raise with 63 off is only going to cost you money long term. Nice hand, fish, stick around, it won't take long to get my money back. |
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