Screw collusion...THIS is the problem online....

touchfaith · #1 02-07-2005, 01:43 PM

Stumbled across this in that stupid 'party is racist' thread (grow up)...

But it brings me to another point....

I think that sites should do something to block/eliminate these stat tracker things.

If you are too stupid to keep notes on your own or track someones play style...DONT PLAY POKER.

These things are a joke and are the number one reason I play at multiple sites under multiple names.

Have fun at a B&M without your little stat trackers.

Example:

wbrumfiel · #2 02-07-2005, 01:46 PM

You aren't going to get too far on these forums hating on PT and PV or GT+. That is how most of these people make thier money and if its available I don't see why you wouldn't use it. Thats like telling someone that offered you the score of the superbowl in advance that you just didn't feel it was right to be making money like that.

rivered · #3 02-07-2005, 02:43 PM

I use poker tracker and playerview but I think playerview goes to far and I rather it wasn't there and I think it's 100% a really bad thing for poker. It makes it way too easy for middle of the road, lazy players. The second thing is what's next? A stats program that will compute the correct play for you based on number of players, the flop, etc can't be far behind. It may not make bad players great but it may make average players a lot better, which, despite what a lot of people think, is the majority of the players sitting at a table.

SlantNGo · #4 02-07-2005, 02:48 PM

That would be real-time and against the poker site's TOS. PlayerView is based on PokerTracker, which imports hands AFTER they've completed.

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touchfaith · #5 02-07-2005, 02:51 PM

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That would be real-time and against the poker site's TOS. PlayerView is based on PokerTracker, which imports hands AFTER they've completed.

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A stats program that will compute the correct play for you based on number of players, the flop, etc can't be far behind.

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That's funny, I don't see it anywhere in the Terms...maybe you wouldn't like 'bot like play' against you and that's why you are opposed?

Hey, it's all fair on the computer right????

Dog eat dog world remember????

SlantNGo · #6 02-07-2005, 02:58 PM

Read them more carefully.

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HRFats · #7 02-07-2005, 02:51 PM

This program exists. I'm not ging to mention the program name but it "integrates" with PP and reads your hand plus the community cards as they are shown. It then calcs all the odds and outs. I heard it was illegal to use on the sites, though.

BottlesOf · #8 02-07-2005, 04:05 PM

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A stats program that will compute the correct play for you based on number of players, the flop, etc can't be far behind.

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False. I'll let others elaborate.

boondoggle · #9 05-07-2005, 12:23 PM

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I use poker tracker and playerview but I think playerview goes to far and I rather it wasn't there and I think it's 100% a really bad thing for poker. It makes it way too easy for middle of the road, lazy players. The second thing is what's next? A stats program that will compute the correct play for you based on number of players, the flop, etc can't be far behind. It may not make bad players great but it may make average players a lot better, which, despite what a lot of people think, is the majority of the players sitting at a table.

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I think your perception is correct and it hurts the profitability in the long term but many people fail to see this. The means justify the ends and so when they overfish...it will be funny watching them whine.

cheers
Boon

jon593 · #10 02-07-2005, 05:44 PM

there are so many people playing online that it would be too hard to keep track of everyone you played a hand with in your head. its not like your weekly home game where you know everyone and played with them for a while or even your local casino where you have been for a while and watched the regulars play. these stat tracking programs are great.do you think the pros dont keep notes on everyone that they play? im sure most do keep notes on all the players that they play against