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Old 02-05-2005, 09:41 PM
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Other than Nash, whom? Anyone even close besides James, maybe Duncan?
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Old 02-05-2005, 09:41 PM
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Tony Allen. Without question, best player ever.
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Old 02-05-2005, 10:11 PM
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It's really not close anymore. The Suns have one of the top records in the league, and it's basically all due to what Nash has brought to the team. We all saw that when Nash was injured and the team collapsed. They have some great players, but Steve Nash is the key translating that talent into success.

The Spurs' success is mostly due to teamwork and being strong at all positions on both ends of the court. Duncan is the centerpiece of a really strong all-around franchise. However, I think they'll still be successful if his injury keeps him out for a few games. He will get some votes for being the best player on the best team in the league, but I don't think he'll win it. His supporting cast is just too good this year.

Lebron should get some consideration for the numbers he's putting up, but the Cavs have not won enough to get him the award. If they go on a big streak to end the season, it will be close, but I don't think that's gonna happen.

Same deal with Garnett. If the rest of the Wolves got their heads together and they won some games, this wouldn't even be a contest. Anyone who leads their team in all five major categories automatically gets top consideration. But it has to be a winning team.

No one seems to be including Iverson in this discussion, but I really think he deserves at least a mention. He's having a spectacular year with a pretty weak supporting cast.

Shaq will definitely get some votes as well, simply because he usually is the true most valuable player, but 23 and 10 aren't quite good enough for his position to get him the award for it. That, and Dwayne Wade's maturation is arguably just as responsible for the Heat's success as the Shaq-for-everyone trade.

So yeah, I really think Nash is going to get it. Then again, I was completely sure that Ron Artest was going to win MVP this year based on his early play and the Pacers' starting record. So I've been wrong before.

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Old 02-05-2005, 10:15 PM
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Yeah but does Nash do the offensive rebound dunk like Tony Allen? Definetly not.
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Old 02-05-2005, 10:21 PM
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Yeah but does Nash do the offensive rebound dunk like Tony Allen? Definetly not.

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Good point.
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Old 02-05-2005, 10:40 PM
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If the vote were held today it would be Nash in a landslide. Kg is not going to be a contender this year.
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Old 02-05-2005, 10:59 PM
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Iverson is putting up good scoring numbers because the 76ers have no one else who is good at shooting the ball. His 3pt percentage is under 30%, and his FG% is around 40%. He shoots 25 shots a game so of course he's going to put up some decent point numbers, but I'd still take Francis over him anyday.
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Old 02-05-2005, 11:02 PM
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TMac's %'s aint so hot either (Jacking over 6 threes a game at 33%?? ugh), and unlike Iverson he doesn't bother to play D. Both are overrated, but at least Iverson gives you 100% every night and on both ends of the court.
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Old 02-05-2005, 11:19 PM
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Iverson is putting up good scoring numbers because the 76ers have no one else who is good at shooting the ball. His 3pt percentage is under 30%, and his FG% is around 40%. He shoots 25 shots a game so of course he's going to put up some decent point numbers, but I'd still take Francis over him anyday.

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You forgot to mention that AI is fourth in the league in assists. Saying that he leads the league in scoring because his teammates aren't great really undermines what he does. You can't say that someone averaging 29 points does so only because no one else can shoot. You have to be a good player to score points. You have to be a great player to lead the league in scoring, regardless of who's around you. This is why Antoine Walker is not in the top 20.

Yes, his shooting percentages are quite low. But anyone who leads the league in scoring while being in the top five in assists is one of the most valuable players. He's always been a great scorer, but his game has really reached a new level now that he's improved his passing. I really think he would be a championship contender if he had a better supporting cast.

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Old 02-05-2005, 10:35 PM
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Put Nash on the Cavs instead of Lebron and they are a sub-.500 team.

It's James.
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