On the Bubble - intereting puzzle

[Scuba Chuck]

I am making this up, but similar situations occur all the time.

Blinds (200/400)
BB 3,000
HERO 3,000
UTG 1,800
BUTTON 200

HERO is dealt A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Fold to Hero in the SB. What is the advice here?
Can you raise? Is this a mandatory push?

[1C5]

Good question. You push, he folds, you steal his BB. You push, he calls, you will be behind in the hand 95% of the time. Raising might be an option instead? I got yelled at here for doing that before though. It was the same scenerio as this almost and I raised to 900 instead of pushing and he came over the top and reraised all in. I folded but not sure if that was the correct play...

[Scuba Chuck]

It's nice when the first responder gets the question.

I was thinking about this. Put yourself in the BBs shoes. I think it's +$EV to push with any two cards in this scenario.

Is my thinking correct?

[AtticusFinch]

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It's nice when the first responder gets the question.

I was thinking about this. Put yourself in the BBs shoes. I think it's +$EV to push with any two cards in this scenario.

Is my thinking correct?

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Didn't I read a quote here a few days ago that claimed that it's +EV to push from the small blind with any two cards if you have <10 bb left? The caveat was that while this is true over the whole range of hands, it may not be true for each individual hand.

I'd say it's probably +EV to push here from a strictly chip-by-chip perspective, but that doesn't take into account he fact that you're co-chip leader on the bubble, going up against the other chip leader, and a player is due to be knocked out next hand. I'd fold this hand every day and twice on Sunday, +EV be damned.

I also doubt raising then folding a push beats just folding for EV, but that's hard to compute without a read on BB.

The same thing goes for the BB. It may be slightly +EV to push against a standard raise, but so what?

Even if these moves are +EV in terms of winnings, I'd probably choose to fold, just to keep my variance down. The long term tiny edge won't begin to pay for the monitor I throw through my window when I bust out here. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[AtticusFinch]

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I think it's +$EV to push with any two cards in this scenario.

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I'm semi-new here... does +$EV mean plus cash EV (as in EV of prize money), as opposed to plus tourney chips EV?

[lorinda]

I'm semi-new here... does +$EV mean plus cash EV (as in EV of prize money), as opposed to plus tourney chips EV?

Yes. Although EV tends to be used to also mean the same thing, $EV is more specific.

Lori

[ilya]

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I am making this up, but similar situations occur all the time.

Blinds (200/400)
BB 3,000
HERO 3,000
UTG 1,800
BUTTON 200

HERO is dealt A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Fold to Hero in the SB. What is the advice here?
Can you raise? Is this a mandatory push?

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if the BB seems reasonable, push with ATC...if he's wild, or even if you have some doubt...fold.

[Scuba Chuck]

This is a results oriented question.

I ask because I got called in a similar scenario, and lost, OUT OF THE MONEY.

So, given the results, I am asking the question, really, is it better to fold this? Or, maybe, I am asking, Am I a pussy?

It seems like good poker to me, if I were the BB in this situation, and I was dealt AK, I would probably fold it. Any thoughts?

[eastbay]

It really depends on your opponent.

One of the frustrating things about SnGs is that your opponents can make horrid mistakes which also hurt YOU.

By pushing here you are giving him the opportunity to be very stupid by calling with a lot of hands that he should fold, and you don't want that. So if you think he may be stupid, or prideful, or pissed off at you, you should be far more inclined to fold.

eastbay

[Scuba Chuck]

Yeah, that's a tough read 3 or 4 tabling. Thanks for your response, though.