My take on FTR

[cnfuzzd]

I was a debater in both high school and college. On my high school squad, there was a wierd hierarchy. At the top were the best our squad had to offer. These people not only were the most successfull, but also the most productive, and, to some degree, the most arrogant. Never to the point of belittling those whose lives werent consumed by debate, but there was some definite joshing occuring, which was only reasonable since the people on the recieving end werent as committed to the event as those dishing out. However, the ranks of the "elite" were always open. I remember when i was accepted as one of our top debaters, and i remember when we accepted others. Sure, some people occasionally got their feelings hurt, but in the end, we would always come together, and remember that we were a team, helping each other out. This is twoplustwo. Sure, we point out when someone is stupid, and we try to belittle those who are repeatedly stupid. We like make fun of each other, and we enjoy jokes at ours' and others' expense. But we are also always here to help each other. We also, rightly in my view, are proud of the skills we have obtained, and are refining, in our craft, and happy with our "teams" success. We are always there for each other, even if it is only half the forum uniting against the other half about who the hottest chick under thirteen is. In the end though, we are a group of people almost universally rabid about improving our poker game, and willing to engage in fierce discussion to come to the proper conclusion.

FTR seems much more social, much less combatitive. I have never felt stressed here, but FTR seems even more relaxed. I for one dont like the fact that posts are getting discussed days later without the "correct" answer ever being labeled as such. This isnt neccesarily a bad thing, but i think the vast magority of FTRs membership is hiding behind a veil of weak-tight-dom, or at the very least are unwilling to properly engage in criticism of their play. I think that there are probably quite a few at-least-break-even players in that forum, with a handfull of really good players, but i think someone would be better served in our forum, especially since the "thick-skin" one develops here is usefull in the game of poker which can be a cold, mathematically frustrating b[/i]itch sometimes. But, they are doing there thing, and its really not funny, like the qlc was, so much as its just sort of meh. Free country, let em do what they want. However, i am willing to put all the money in my stars account on daryn.

Oh, and everyone should try to guess my FTR screenname. Its should be insanely easy.

peace

john nickle

[brassnuts]

Well put, John. I think we are being overly harsh on these people. However, I still wanna see some match ups. We should definitely organize some sort of competition.

[TylerK]

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Well put, John. I think we are being overly harsh on these people. However, I still wanna see some match ups. We should definitely organize some sort of competition.

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Greetings from FTR!

All in all I think today got sort of silly. You guys have your thing and we have ours, I think we can agree to disagree about the ways our communities operate.

As far as an organized competition, I think it would be a lot of fun. I had a great time playing with all of you in the tsunami relief tournament.

Here's what I propose:

Each site chooses a set number of players (10? 15?) to participate in a private no limit holdem tournament on PokerStars. The buyin would be small to make sure everyone can participate, let's say $10 or $20. The entire proceeds would be donated to a worthy charity, possibly the same as the tsunami relief tourment was. (GrannyMae, would you like to take care of this part?)

"Winner" would be determined by total prize money accumulated by either site.

Alternately, we could assign a certain number of "points" to the top X places, something along the lines of say 40 for 1st, 25 for 2nd, 15 for 3rd, 8 for 4th, 6 for 5th, etc. We could work out some kind of distribution that works out for everyone.

Maybe we could include some kind of fun side bet, something like changing the losing participants' home page or location field in their forum profiles to the URL of the winning site.

Thoughts, comments, suggestions?

[BusterStacks]

We are home to the best players in the world, your site is a distant second at best.

[cnfuzzd]

Jesus loves you mr busterstacks.

and so do i.....


peace

john nickle

[BusterStacks]

that is good, but neverless I'm shocked you are putting FTR on the same battlefield as 2+2. Seriously. They are both forums about poker, but that's really where the similarities end. By entertaining this idea of a "match-up" or even comparing the two, you are doing a great disservice to us.

Do we really have the time to go around pwning the crap out of every single message board about poker? Well ok maybe we do, but should we? I think the answer is a resounding no. All that would do is encourage them. How can you even consider playing against a forum who's best guy "plays by instinct". Lol, what a newb.

Let them have their circle-jerk of weak-tighties, if any of them make it out of there as strong players, they will wind up here anyway.

When the cat's away, the mice will play... and possibly start a forum called FTR.

[TylerK]

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We are home to the best players in the world, your site is a distant second at best.

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Awesome.

So is this a "yeah, let's do it, it'll be a good time" or just a non sequitur?

[Cubswin]

I was a debater in both high school and college.

I remember when i was accepted as one of our top debaters,

I too remember the day when i became a master debater.

[cnfuzzd]

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I too remember the day when i became a master debater.

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wow, i havent heard that joke in years. It didnt improve with age.

Cubs, you debate in college?

and someone guess my FTR screenname dammit.

peace

john nickle

[Cubswin]

Cubs, you debate in college?

i never took a liking to formal debating... it was always too... well... formal for me. plus, i have always been better at putting my thoughts together on paper.

cubs