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Old 01-27-2005, 06:01 PM
tdomeski tdomeski is offline
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Default So sick. . .(little to no content)

Me and the villian got history. .he's semi decent. .overthinker. .and borderline crazy.

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MP2 ($65.45)
Hero ($200)
CO ($197)
Button ($199)
SB ($199.35)
BB ($200)
UTG ($68)
UTG+1 ($100.45)
MP1 ($516.60)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $8, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: ($19) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $6</font>, Hero calls $6.

Turn: ($31) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $12</font>, MP1 calls $6.

River: ($55) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $174</font>, MP1 calls $144.

Final Pot: $403
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Old 01-27-2005, 06:04 PM
djoyce003 djoyce003 is offline
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Default Re: So sick. . .(little to no content)

don't tell me he turned over king 10 of clubs. You massively underbet the turn. Your raise should have been 30.
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Old 01-27-2005, 06:15 PM
tdomeski tdomeski is offline
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Default Re: So sick. . .(little to no content)

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Your raise should have been 30.

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In most cases, yes. Against this opponent, no.

I do have a read. .so please stop this systematic auto raise 3X his bet bull. . . . You are allowed to think sometimes when you play.
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Old 01-27-2005, 06:33 PM
djoyce003 djoyce003 is offline
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Default Re: So sick. . .(little to no content)

Mine was more like betting the pot. And I am thinking here, he obviously still likes his hand, even with a flush out there...maybe he has a smaller flush than you or a set, and is willing to call a much bigger turn bet here. If that's the case, the fourth club hitting on the river is an action killer that didn't pair the board so anyone else is freezing up here. That was my point, I don't feel that there was any real need say my method was thoughtless, although I should have put all these in my previous post, so touche.
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Old 01-27-2005, 06:48 PM
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Default Re: So sick. . .(little to no content)

This I do somewhat agree with as if the board either shows 4th flush or pairs, you are either not goin to get much action or won't value bet the river.

Although you have to weigh the advantages of reraising a lot and getting a smaller flush to call vs minraising and getting smaller flush to push.Hero I believe is trying to rep the straight with the minraise.

Also, there is the additional consideration of how villain acts in either situation if he is on say 2 pair or straight.
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Old 01-27-2005, 07:54 PM
TheWorstPlayer TheWorstPlayer is offline
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Default Re: So sick. . .(little to no content)

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Your raise should have been 30.

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In most cases, yes. Against this opponent, no.

I do have a read. .so please stop this systematic auto raise 3X his bet bull. . . . You are allowed to think sometimes when you play.

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Min raise is stupid against any opponent if for no other reason than that it makes it less likely they will call a big raise on the river since it tips them off to your hand. Either raise normally, which they will believe or won't believe, or don't raise at all. Min-raising doesn't build the pot, gives off information, and is a play that you normally won't use so it has no meta-game value. It sucks here just as much as it normally does.
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Old 01-27-2005, 06:05 PM
Sponger15SB Sponger15SB is offline
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Turn: ($31) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $12</font>, MP1 calls $6.


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Yeah I'd really love to hear your explanation for that
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Old 01-27-2005, 06:07 PM
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Default Re: So sick. . .(little to no content)

yea yea, heard it all before, minraises are bad.

whats the problem if he got him to call?
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Old 01-27-2005, 06:08 PM
Benal Benal is offline
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Default Re: So sick. . .(little to no content)

KT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] eh? maybe T8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ?
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Old 01-27-2005, 06:45 PM
Richie Rich Richie Rich is offline
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Default Str8 flushes usually won\'t...

(or theoretically shouldn't) simply call an opponent's raise on an unpaired board. I'd put villain on a set of Qs.
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