Preflop pushes: standard or stupid?

[edge]

I normally play three tables, but I tried four tonight. I wasn't really paying attention either, which made the situation worse. Anyway, I played two hands in a way most players on this forum probably wouldn't.

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Here SB is a LAG, Button is shortstacked and new. I think this play is good, anyone disagree?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 4 handed) converter

UTG ($72.25)
Button ($13)
SB ($85.75)
Hero ($100.85)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.5.
UTG calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB (poster) raises to $6.5</font>, Hero calls $6, UTG calls $6, Button calls $10 (All-In), SB calls $6, Hero calls $93.85 (All-In), UTG folds, SB calls $72.75 (All-In).

Flop: ($206.60) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 3 all-in)</font>

Turn: ($206.60) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 3 all-in)</font>

River: ($206.60) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 3 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $206.60

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I don't like this hand as much. I didn't notice that CO raised it before the push, or it didn't register in my mind. Probably a bad play.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

SB ($82.8)
BB ($134.4)
Hero ($56.65)
MP ($38.35)
CO ($28)
Button ($10.5)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.5.
Hero calls $1, MP calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $4</font>, Button calls $10.50 (All-In), SB (poster) calls $10, BB folds, Hero calls $55.65 (All-In), MP folds, CO calls $24 (All-In), SB folds.

Flop: ($107.65) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 3 all-in)</font>

Turn: ($107.65) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 3 all-in)</font>

River: ($107.65) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 3 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $107.65

[PoBoy321]

Stupid. In both of these cases you're either slightly behind, way behind, or slightly ahead. In hand #1, button could have almost any 2 since he only has $10 left, but UTG and SB aren't calling you with anything that you beat.

Hand 2, you're either slightly ahead or you're way behind. No one is calling your push with 99 and you're only slightly ahead of AK, so you can definitely find better spots to get your money in the pot on both occasions.

[edge]

I'm only behind AA and KK in hand 1. Although I'd prefer it if everyone folded and I went heads-up with the all-in shortstack, I have more than enough pot odds if a pocket pair calls me, and it didn't look like AA or KK was out there with the flat calls of Button's all-in.

Hand 2 I was trying to fold everyone out or go against high unpaired cards, again with more than enough pot odds, unless a higher pair calls me. Actually, now that I look at it again, I think it's push or fold preflop after I limped and those raises happened behind me.

[PoBoy321]

My point was that in Hand 1, the SB isn't going to call with TT or less, so if he calls, you're looking at JJ, QQ, KK and AA, all of which you're behind, but you're worse than a 2:1 dog against KK and like an 8:1 dog against AA.

In hand 2, the only high unpaired cards that might call you are AK, where you're only about a 55% favorite, and even most decent players are able to lay that down. More than likely, you'll be looking at a higher pocket pair, and are a 4:1 dog.

[edge]

I don't want the other players to call in either hand. I want to go heads-up against the all-in player, since both of those hands can be very tough to play if I just call it preflop.

Edit: Keep in mind that this is Party 50NL. I'm going to get calls from ridiculous hands, like 55 and KT.

[edge]

Bump; anyone else have thoughts on these hands?

[krazyace5]

Did you split the first pot? Just wondering cause I saw 2 similar hands at my table earlier.

[TheWorstPlayer]

Hand 1: good.
Hand 2: bad.

[Tilt]

Hand 1 is not bad. Hand 2 is terrible....unless the table is on serious tilt there is no way you can be ahead here.

[imported_stealthcow]

you flat call utg with TT?

stealthcow-