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Old 01-15-2005, 02:47 PM
RyanTaylor RyanTaylor is offline
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Default Cash from pocket as a raise?

This is a question of whether or not cash can be played from the pocket in a game where chips have to be purchased. The situation from which the question arose is this:

5 person game, $1/2 blinds, no limit

I hold [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]10 in BB
Next two people fold
Button (loose, position player) calls with rags
SB (very loose agressive) limps with [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K

flop is [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]4

SB raises $3
I call
Button folds

Turn is inconsequential

SB bets $5
I call to give the illusion of holding Ace high (a hand ive become popular for winning with)

River helps no one

BB puts me all in (about $15)
I call, but stand up and raise $65 cash from my wallet.
BB puts me on a bluff and calls
I show my 4 of a kind, he is completely broke.

So, once again, can I use cash in a chip game? Was I allowed to raise from my wallet and was the BB required to protect the his chips with outside cash? The agreement in our game is that he could have told me no outside cash, but was allowed to call my cash bet at his discretion. Any opinions?
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Old 01-15-2005, 03:00 PM
guller guller is offline
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Default Re: Cash from pocket as a raise?

I don't like it. You should have been all in. Table stakes is the way to go, what's on the table is it.

If he would have reraised you more money than you had in your wallet would you have to fold the hand?

Gull
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Old 01-15-2005, 03:40 PM
aaronjacobg aaronjacobg is offline
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Default Re: Cash from pocket as a raise?

I think that it should be allowed but it should be completely separate from the betting in the hand. Like a prop bet, he could say, "I bet that the five card hand that i can make with my down cards is better than yours." The hand itself is done and the hand can no longer be folded due to a bet but more bets can happen.

Jake
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Old 01-15-2005, 03:55 PM
RunDownHouse RunDownHouse is offline
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Default Re: Cash from pocket as a raise?

Why didn't you go to the ATM real quick to get even more cash than you had on you?
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Old 01-15-2005, 03:28 PM
dingoeater dingoeater is offline
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Default Re: Cash from pocket as a raise?

As its a home game and ye play it that its at his discretion to accept the bet or not, then you're perfectly entitled to do it in my oipinion.
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Old 01-15-2005, 03:28 PM
YTV YTV is offline
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Default Re: Cash from pocket as a raise?

No cash should come out of anyones pockets. If money is on the table with your chips BEFORE the deal, that can be used.
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Old 02-14-2005, 04:51 AM
REL18 REL18 is offline
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Default Re: Cash from pocket as a raise?

I have great idea ill always have the regular amount on table but then cary 5g in my hand every time i make absolute nuts and be like oh i raise 5g more
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Old 02-14-2005, 05:15 AM
TwinTowers TwinTowers is offline
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Default Re: Cash from pocket as a raise?

Would a limit game have changed anyone's opinion. I was at a call you own game last month where low spade in the hole split the pot.

With a $2 max bet, I needed to buy more chips once I realized I had the Ace of spades and two other players had huge hands. I bought $10 in chips and didnt think twice about it.
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Old 02-14-2005, 05:42 AM
theRealMacoy theRealMacoy is offline
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Default Re: Cash from pocket as a raise?

table stakes only way to fly
otherwise the bettor is risking nothing
and gaining when they hit

I suggest people re-buy when they get near the nub
and sutlely remind them of the table stakes

later
the Real Macoy
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Old 02-14-2005, 08:25 AM
guller guller is offline
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Default Re: Cash from pocket as a raise?

You shouldn't be allowed to buy chips mid-hand for this reason exactly. Chips should be purchased between hands only, limit or no limit.
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