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How weak of a fold is this?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (9 handed) converter
SB (t9755) BB (t9398) UTG (t8630) UTG+1 (t21860) Hero (t16555) MP2 (t16879) MP3 (t6065) CO (t8875) Button (t14235) Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t300</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t750</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO calls t750, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls t450. Flop: (t2475) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets t750</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2000</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t8125</font>, UTG+1 calls t7375, Hero folds. Turn: (t20725) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> River: (t20725) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Final Pot: t20725 Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF"> UTG+1 has 4c Kc (flush, king high). CO has 9d 9h (one pair, nines). Outcome: UTG+1 wins t20725. </font> WTF can I do, his call is pretty bad IMHO. I know if I move in he is going to call. The only good thing I can take away is that I had them both pegged for what they had. I thought the all-in was like JJ, and I thought UTG +1 had a flush draw. With all the money in the pot, it was a god awful fold, but I didn't want to lose all my chips on a coinflip. I hate his call here, he is risking why too much on a flush draw, had he folded, it's an insta-call for me. I also think I needed to bet more on the flop and preflop... |
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Re: How weak of a fold is this?
Hellmuth would be proud, I threw away the best hand and knew it...
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Re: How weak of a fold is this?
Well i don't blaime you for folding that hand, if i was you i would've put CO on AA/KK
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Re: How weak of a fold is this?
Not necessarily so bc they had REALLY deep stacks at that moment event compared tot he raise he didnt commit even 9% of his stack...there are some who will play 22 like this, provided they believe the original raiser wont reraise...which of course is a huge assumption but the implied odds 3 ways with postion deep stacks all are HUGE. I m not advocating playing 22 here just alerting you to the way some players think about pp.
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Re: How weak of a fold is this?
I knew he didn't have a pair, he would have moved in himself with a set since there were 2 clubs on the board. I'd expect him to move in with AA and KK with the respective club (or without it). The right play was to move in, but I didn't want to go broke that hand. It was right after the 1st break, and both our stacks were deep. We are essentially playing a coinflip but with the money already in the pot, my fold was pretty bad. If I flat called on the flop and the club hits, I've committed too much to throw my hand away. If a king or ace hit I'd have a hard time laying down as well, but EV wise, the right thing to do was move in. I cost myself less than 20% of my stack, but I should have been willing to commit 100%...
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