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Old 01-13-2005, 02:45 PM
lostinthought lostinthought is offline
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Default Playing on a paired board..

Can I release at the river or earlier? Am I donating in these situations?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. MP1 posts a blind of $2.
UTG folds, MP1 (poster) checks, MP2 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 folds, CO folds, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB

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Old 01-13-2005, 02:54 PM
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Default Re: Playing on a paired board..

I would fold on the flop...
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Old 01-13-2005, 02:56 PM
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Default Re: Playing on a paired board..

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I would fold on the flop...

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Why?
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Old 01-13-2005, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: Playing on a paired board..

Itīs a small pot, and if you decide to play you have to come in with a raise. Meaning that you will pay 2 SB to win 6, with just a TP crappy kicker with 3 more people yet to act and no idea where you are at...

And with no read on SB being a complete donkey, what exactly does he got that you beat? He is leading out into 5 people on a paired rainbow board...

You have crappy position in a small pot with a marginal holding. I say fold and wait for a better spot to invest your money...
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Old 01-13-2005, 02:56 PM
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Default Re: Playing on a paired board..

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I would fold on the flop...

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After the initial bet or after the 3-bet?
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Old 01-13-2005, 03:03 PM
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Default Re: Playing on a paired board..

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I would fold on the flop...

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With no reads on the player, I think folding to the three bet is a good option. But folding immediately seems horrible to me.
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Old 01-13-2005, 03:18 PM
James282 James282 is offline
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Default Re: Playing on a paired board..

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I would fold on the flop...

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With no reads on the player, I think folding to the three bet is a good option. But folding immediately seems horrible to me.

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Folding to a three-bet is even worse, FWIW. Who isn't going to three-bet you here with KQ-KT? It's clear as day that you don't have a 9. A lot of people will three-bet hands your tied with your hands you beat as well. No, I think folding initially would be a much better play than folding to a three-bet.
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Old 01-13-2005, 03:23 PM
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Default Re: Playing on a paired board..

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With no reads on the player, I think folding to the three bet is a good option. But folding immediately seems horrible to me.

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Folding to the threebet is a very good option without a read on the villain.
Is folding immediately debatable? Yes. Horrible? Certainly not...
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Old 01-13-2005, 02:54 PM
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Default Re: Playing on a paired board..

I'm definitely not folding on the river since if he had you outkicked it's now split.

I think your play here is fine.
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Old 01-13-2005, 06:10 PM
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Default Re: Playing on a paired board..

I have a question, would it be bad to cap it on the flop and then fold if the villain leads out?
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