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FW 20/40 --- crappy top pair in BB v. SB flop bet
OK Foxwoods 20/40 game. Button is an abysmal player who is the reason the game is good. Playing 100% of hands preflop and taking them as passively as possible all the way to the river, where he folds without a pair. He'll usually fold the turn to 2 cold without at least mid pair. SB is that {greek?} guy Nick who owns the Pizza shop. I haven't played with him that much, but judging from what I've seen and the way the regulars treat him, he's probably a small to medium loser in the game long term, possibly a very marginal winner. In the short time I've played with him, I've pegged him as passive and too loose, but not horribly so. He will never fold his SB in a limped pot from what I've seen.
I have K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in the BB. Aggro CO who plays too loose limps--he would have raised any ace and probably any K here. Button limps. Nick completes. I check. Flop is K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Nick bets out. I think about raising but decide to call. CO and button decide to call, too. CO would have raised with top pair, a draw, or a decent 8 here is my guess and would almost never fold on the flop even with a complete miss. Turn is T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Nick bets. I raise planning on putting no more money into the pot unless I'm called and river a 3. Bad, good, indifferent? scrub |
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Re: FW 20/40 --- crappy top pair in BB v. SB flop bet
I would just call and let the people behind you put in their money with their 8's and 6's.
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Re: FW 20/40 --- crappy top pair in BB v. SB flop bet
what was your plan if CO or button raised the flop?
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Re: FW 20/40 --- crappy top pair in BB v. SB flop bet
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what was your plan if CO or button raised the flop? [/ QUOTE ] Asian guy: call/muck turn. Other guy: probably the same but I might call down if Nick cleared out to his turn bet. scrub |
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Re: FW 20/40 --- crappy top pair in BB v. SB flop bet
If someone behind you calls I think check-folding the river has to be wrong. Couldn't someone bet a T if you check to them on the river?
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Re: FW 20/40 --- crappy top pair in BB v. SB flop bet
i'd raise the flop, but that is just my style. I'd want to play this hand heads up against a calling station. You may also get a medium king to fold.
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Re: FW 20/40 --- crappy top pair in BB v. SB flop bet
You're not going to get any K to fold to a flop raise in this game. He's got a shot with a turn raise.
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Re: FW 20/40 --- crappy top pair in BB v. SB flop bet
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You're not going to get any K to fold to a flop raise in this game. He's got a shot with a turn raise. [/ QUOTE ] I particularly had no shot of getting any K to fold with a flop raise because I had raised the flop in a very similar spot out of the BB with Q3 in the big blind when it was top pair about an hour before and gotten called down by different SB's mid pair. scrub |
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Re: FW 20/40 --- crappy top pair in BB v. SB flop bet
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If someone behind you calls I think check-folding the river has to be wrong. Couldn't someone bet a T if you check to them on the river? [/ QUOTE ] I would bet the river if checked to, but probably not call a bet or a raise. |
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Re: FW 20/40 --- crappy top pair in BB v. SB flop bet
I wasn't specific enough on my plan for the river when I posted because I knew how the turn played out...[img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
If Nick folded and Asian guy called, I would have check/called the river. If Nick folded and the other guy called two cold, I would have seriously thought about check/folding the river but it would have been close and might have depended on body language. If either of the LP players called and Nick called, I would have checked and folded to an LP bet and a Nick overcall. scrub |
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