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Old 12-26-2004, 02:42 AM
Awesemo Awesemo is offline
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Default Online cardrooms rake too much for their own good

There is a distinct relationship between the change in population of an online site and the amount of rake charged per pot. This is intuitively true considering that as players bust out of the site, they are less likely to buy back in. This has an effect on the overall amount of profit of the site. Is it possible that online poker sites charge too much rake for their own profit? If this was true, the change to compensate would be a benefit to the whole poker community.

The image I have for online poker is put well by Snoop Dogg, "Paid tha cost to be da boss." There is a definite learning curve for playing profitable poker. The higher the rake, the steeper the learning curve. If the rake of online sites was lowered, the population would grow at a much faster rate. This would be great for online poker in general. I think Dutch Boyd is on the right track with his venture Rakefree.com. However, I think that the best step for the poker community would be a currently popular online site lowering its rake. Online poker seems to me like an oligopoly. All of the websites have approximately the same rake structures. If one site lowered theirs, it would cause the other sites to lower as a reaction.

If the rake in poker rooms were lowered, it would benefit everybody. Online poker rooms would have more players and the total rake could be optimized. The overall quality of players at the sites would diminish. Let's push for lowered rake structures in the new year.
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Old 12-26-2004, 02:47 AM
The4Aces The4Aces is offline
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Default Re: Online cardrooms rake too much for their own good

i dont think the average player pays attention to the rake or even compares the rakes at diffrent sites. They see poker on TV or hear there friends talking about it and then they want to get in on the action. The above average player just fallows where the easiest games are. therefore I think that rake doesnt matter. The only thing that matters is advertiseing and diffrent types of games/tournamnets that the average player wants to play.
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Old 12-26-2004, 03:15 AM
Awesemo Awesemo is offline
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Default Re: Online cardrooms rake too much for their own good

The average player is also gonna play longer and more if they don't lose all their money because of the rake. My whole point is that when the average player is drawn to these sites, they are less likely to quit.
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Old 12-27-2004, 03:02 PM
flafishy flafishy is offline
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Default Re: Online cardrooms rake too much for their own good

You're insane.

I doubt very seriously that the rake on most online poker rooms is going to make or break any player.
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Old 12-27-2004, 03:06 PM
Awesemo Awesemo is offline
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Default Re: Online cardrooms rake too much for their own good

Well the rake certainly isn't going to make any player. As for breaking players, if a player is a longterm loser because of the rake, they are in essence being broken by the rake.
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Old 12-27-2004, 03:06 PM
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Default Re: Online cardrooms rake too much for their own good

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I doubt very seriously that the rake on most online poker rooms is going to make or break any player.

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Wrong.
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Old 12-29-2004, 02:19 AM
Synergistic Explosions Synergistic Explosions is offline
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Default Re: Online cardrooms rake too much for their own good

Rake is cancer.
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Old 12-29-2004, 02:26 AM
Michael Davis Michael Davis is offline
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Default Re: Online cardrooms rake too much for their own good

"You're insane.

I doubt very seriously that the rake on most online poker rooms is going to make or break any player."

See Homer's reply. You're insane.

-Michael
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Old 12-26-2004, 02:48 AM
ThePinkBunny ThePinkBunny is offline
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Default Re: Online cardrooms rake too much for their own good

As many have stated in the past...

" All of the websites have approximately the same rake structures. If one site lowered theirs, it would cause the other sites to lower as a reaction. "

This assertion is false. Most bad players don't choose a site based on rake structure. Most good players choose a site based on where bad players play.
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Old 12-26-2004, 02:51 AM
Uglyowl Uglyowl is offline
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Default Re: Online cardrooms rake too much for their own good

People still buy scratch tickets by the fistful with a rake of
around 50%. Online poker is a bargain!
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