TT, beat the monkey for retarded river play.

Entity · #1 12-23-2004, 02:46 PM

Just flog me. Christ this was bad.

Also, rate the potential best options here: bet/fold, check/fold, check/call.

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. MP2 posts a blind of $0.5.
UTG calls, Hero raises, MP2 (poster) folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (13 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (9 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, Button raises, SB folds, BB folds, UTG folds, Hero 3-bets, Button caps, Hero calls.

River: (17 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 21 BB

btspider · #2 12-23-2004, 02:52 PM

fold, wtf are you talking about. bet-call the river is fine.. check-call is alright i suppose. reminds me of this hand i had yesterday. granted the turn action is definitely different.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 1 fold, Button raises, 2 folds, UTG calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (11.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Button folds, UTG folds.

Turn: (7.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP1 folds, MP2 calls.

River: (9.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.25 BB
Main Pot: 13.25 BB, between Hero and MP2. > Pot won by Hero (13.25 BB).

Results in white below: 
Hero has 9s 9c (full house, nines full of sixes).
MP2 has Qh 9d (full house, sixes full of nines).
Outcome: Hero wins 13.25 BB.

Entity · #3 12-23-2004, 02:54 PM

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fold, wtf are you talking about. bet-call the river is fine.. reminds me of this hand i had yesterday:

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 1 fold, Button raises, 2 folds, UTG calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (11.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Button folds, UTG folds.

Turn: (7.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP1 folds, MP2 calls.

River: (9.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.25 BB
Main Pot: 13.25 BB, between Hero and MP2. > Pot won by Hero (13.25 BB).

Results in white below: 
Hero has 9s 9c (full house, nines full of sixes).
MP2 has Qh 9d (full house, sixes full of nines).
Outcome: Hero wins 13.25 BB. 

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The turn action is pretty different. What does a guy of average to slightly-above-average aggression cap the turn with that I beat on the river?

Rob

btspider · #4 12-23-2004, 02:55 PM

T8, 85.

check-call the river then. fold is absolutely out. (i added the turn disclaimer after your response)

edit: T8, 85... yes, i am drunk. ignore that.. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Entity · #5 12-23-2004, 02:56 PM

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T8, 85.

check-call the river then. fold is absolutely out. (i added the turn disclaimer after your response)

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If he capped the turn with T8 or 85, I'm beat on the river.

Rob

cockandbull · #6 12-23-2004, 02:57 PM

55?

btspider · #7 12-23-2004, 02:58 PM

i added a drunk disclaimer before you posted that.. i suck at poker at this hour [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

time to play 4 tables of .50/1.00 though! everyone is welcome to search me out and steal my $$. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

cockandbull · #8 12-23-2004, 02:55 PM

I dont see anything wrong with this at all.

Bet/fold [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

Check/call hmmm, i'm sure if i posted this hand i'd get the "bet that river" comment.

Bet/call seems like the best play to me.

wildfirefighter · #9 12-23-2004, 02:58 PM

Perhaps check/call would have been better on the river, however, I think folding isn't correct. SSH say unless you are 95% sure you are beat do not fold on the river for one bet in a large pot. I don't think you can be in this case.

droolie · #10 12-23-2004, 03:23 PM

Here's my ranking...

1) check/ call
2) bet/ call
3) bet/ fold
4) check/ fold