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I was wondering if anyone knew the way of calculating the odds of hitting a flush/straight out of a draw by the river i know that a flush has about 9 outs and an open ended straight has 8 outs but then when you are talking about a flush draw you should discount 2 outs when talking about 10 person game. So if you flop a flush draw or an open ended straight draw. whats the are odds that you will hit either one by the river
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when you are talking about a flush draw you should discount 2 outs when talking about 10 person game
why would you do this? is this someone's "rule of thumb" in case you flush but someone makes a full house at the same time? if that's the reason, i would suggest that it might only be sensible if there are maybe seven or more in after the flop, but at that point you are getting more than sufficent pot odds to try your luck in any case if you do a "search" or look back through some threads in this forum you will see dozens of posts on how to do these sorts of calculations |
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you discount 2 outs in a 8-10 person game because the odds of having any suit in 1-4 so the means odds are two people at the table have the same suit as you.
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No offense, but you absolutely DO NOT discount 2 outs as you mentioned. I'm assuming that (for a flush), you are talking about having a four flush on the flop and want to know the probability of making at least a 5 card flush by the river. All you know is that you have 47 unseen cards and that there are 9 of the flush suit somewhere, but you DO NOT assume that they are in someone's hand.
For a good discussion on the flush question, please see my similar question and some great responses at: Flush odds and Suited Board Odds |
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Dave is right about that. You shouldn't be making that discount. Now, if you had a read on a player that told you he had a flush draw...that would be different.
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See before I said the same thing but the truth is the odds are that someone else at the table has at least 2 of your outs for a flush. Because think about it if you flop 4 to a flush and you think that all nine outs are in there then you just aren't counting everything.Because at a ten person table 1in 4 people will be dealt your suit and if you think about it they are dealt two cards so the odds are even more likely But yet no one has answered my question yet
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