Queen-Ace Suited; King-Ace Offsuit

[nepenthe]

Note: SB appears typical, not overly tricky.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed)

Preflop: nepenthe is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="CC3333">nepenthe raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="CC3333">nepenthe bets</font>, Button folds, <font color="CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB folds, nepenthe calls.

Turn: (6 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets</font>, nepenthe calls.

River: (8 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets</font>, nepenthe calls.

Final Pot: 10 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 10 BB, between SB and nepenthe.</font>
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Note: MP3 is very loose, very bad, and loves to bluff/bluff raise.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: nepenthe is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button folds, <font color="CC3333">nepenthe raises</font>, BB calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">nepenthe bets</font>, BB calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
nepenthe checks, <font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">nepenthe 3-bets</font>, BB folds, MP3 calls.

River: (11.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">nepenthe bets</font>, MP3 calls.

Final Pot: 13.50 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 13.50 BB, between MP1, MP3 and nepenthe.</font>

[bisonbison]

I still would have gone ahead and raised the turn in hand 1.

I don't play hand 2 that way, but I don't see a problem with it. Good follow through on the check-raise.

[MoreWineII]

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I still would have gone ahead and raised the turn in hand 1.

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I agree. What's your plan if it's 3-bet?

[bisonbison]

It involves seeing a showdown, but god knows I suck.

[wacki]

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I still would have gone ahead and raised the turn in hand 1.

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I agree. What's your plan if it's 3-bet?

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It's been a week and MoreWineII's question hasn't been answered so I'm bumping it. I'm thinking check/call mode but I'd still like to see what the real players think.

[Freakin]

I really dislike the c/r attempt on hand 2. After raising the flop and betting when a high card hits, what would make you go into check/call or fold mode? My read on MP as a bluffer would have to be INCREDIBLY strong for me to expect this play to work. It screams c/r to me. Did you have any reads on BB at the time? That bet seemed unusual.
Freakin

[ErrantNight]

where's the phantom player on hand 2? i only count two of you on that river...

think your hand might be worth a raise on the turn. a worse ace might play this way, will almost certainly pay off the raise on the turn, and might pay off another on the river.

in hand 2 i take it you were certain the turn wouldn't get checked through? assuming your read was accurate, no problem there...

[Barry]

Hand 1 - I'd 3-bet the flop, but raising the turn is OK too. One raise on the flop should not make you go into check/call mode.

Hand 2 - As long as you're pretty sure that the turn will get bet, going for a checkraise is OK, but unless I'm against some aggros, I'm betting the turn. I would hate to have it checked through.

[nepenthe]

Hand 1: Opponent showed down AKo. I was 50/50 on raising the turn once the low card paired, or on any other card really except the case Q. There are times when I called down with a probable best hand and regretted not raising, but those times are extremely few and far between.

Hand 2: The really bad, really loose, bluff-loving opponent that is MP3 called down with Ace-Two Offsuit.

[jclin]

Interesting results. I am going to agree with bison on hand 1, where you should raise on the turn. There isn't much that can beat you, and 3-bet=pray for Q on river.