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Old 12-06-2004, 02:01 PM
ML4L ML4L is offline
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Default A Good Problem To Have

Hey all,

Betting the correct amount with your big hands is a huge part of winning poker in no-limit. So, it's something that I'm always working hard to improve. Here's one big bet that I've been wondering about...

Stars 5/10. I ($2000) open for $50 in MP with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Mediocre, kinda loose regular ($1850) coldcalls, all else fold. $115 in the pot, heads-up; flop comes:

Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

I check, opponent bets $40, I call. Turn comes:

A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

I check, opponent checks. River comes:

7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I lead for $100, opponent now makes it $340. So, I have $240 to call, $650 or so in the pot, and $1400 left in my opponent's stack. I raise to...?

Thanks in advance.

ML4L
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Old 12-06-2004, 02:13 PM
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if in kinda loose you mean he plays too many hands and goes too far with them, then I would be much more likely to push.

If thats not entirely true, then maybe a raise to $800-1000 straight.
If he has AQ, you are getting reraised anyways, but he will prob. call another 400-500 with KQ or QJ.

hope he didnt have quads... [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Old 12-06-2004, 06:29 PM
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hope he didnt have quads...


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If there's a decent bad beat jackpot, I hope he did...
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Old 12-07-2004, 10:42 AM
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all-in everytime..its a dream hand, no one is folding the q full house. if you are worried about quads, give up poker, and play bridge.
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Old 12-07-2004, 11:52 AM
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all-in everytime..its a dream hand, no one is folding the q full house.

we know that, but you give the smaller houses a decent chance to get away if you just move in. Not saying that moving in is very right or very wrong, but its certainly not cut and dry.

if you are worried about quads, give up poker, and play bridge.

although i am sure ML could play that with the best of them with some practice, it would give me much less to do during the day other than responding to his posts, and more importantly, slow down my progress as a NL player.

come on mike, stick with poker. dont fold. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 12-07-2004, 12:12 PM
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if you are worried about quads, give up poker, and play bridge.

although i am sure ML could play that with the best of them with some practice, it would give me much less to do during the day other than responding to his posts, and more importantly, slow down my progress as a NL player.

come on mike, stick with poker. dont fold. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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I started learning bridge in high school, but believe it or not, it's a lot tougher to convince your teenage friends to play some bridge than to play some poker... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] So, I kinda gave it up. Had I stuck to it, there is no doubt in my mind that I would be better at bridge than poker; it fits my skill-set better.

Truth be told, poker isn't my best card game; spades is.

So, don't worry, fsu; I'm not going anywhere. "Online bridge" and "bridge forum" just don't have the same ring to them...

ML4L
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Old 12-07-2004, 12:22 PM
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"Online bridge" and "bridge forum" just don't have the same ring to them...

yeah, but I bet my girlfriend's parents would like it better [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 12-06-2004, 02:13 PM
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Well I think it's evident he has that queen at a minimum, maybe a boat. I think your bet depends on how loose you are with your raises preflop, but all things being equal I'd prolly reraise him another 400. If he has a set of Q's he calls, if he has a boat maybe he'll pop you back.

*This is my first advice post and I just want to see if I'm "right". =)
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Old 12-06-2004, 02:19 PM
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I agree with turnip's $1000 straight, as for the flop/turn, I'm a bit interested/curious and have a few questions:
Why do you check the flop?
What are your plans if an Ace hadn't hit the turn?
Why should you not lead the turn?
I feel like I would put the opponent on a queen over say a spade draw, if he's on spades, I can see the check, if he does have a Q I can't understand the check, wouldn't you want to lead out, get raised, call, and lead the river? That's the best way to get the money in, no?

Thanks for answering the questions, I've learned a lot from reading your posts.
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Old 12-06-2004, 07:23 PM
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Why do you check the flop?


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I like this play for two reasons: 1) You're either way ahead or way behind, one or the other. Keeping the pot smaller should better define his hand. There are a lot of pocket pairs, heck maybe any, that would/could fire there. 2) It sounds crazy but if the turn is a brick as well as the river, you could induce a bluff. However, the ugly part is the board is paired and the bet will be GRANDE. Hope you brought your glasses it's time to read! [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

FWIW I push and pray to the poker gods he has AQ, cause he'll go to the felt.
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