Does such a chart exist?

[Kevin J]

Can anyone tell me where I could find a chart listing hand performance? For instance, in SSH there is a very rough chart stating how many big bets per hand a good player should make with AA, KK, AK, etc. I'm looking for a more detailed chart which lists all hands.

I realize that no chart will be exact, but I have no idea for instance, what the expected value of hands like AJo, KJs, or 33 are. I just know that if they are played correctly they should be profitable. Again, I know much depends on game conditions and your own abilities, but I just want an idea of what each hand can be expected to make overall. Thanks.

[O Doyle Rules]

Here you go:

http://www.pokerroom.com/games/evsta...hp?order=value

[Kevin J]

Wow! Thanks!! But here's a stupid question.. Is EV big bets? So if AA's EV = 2.32, is that 2.32 big bets per hand? I guess it would have to be, since no limit is given, so it can't be $2.32 per hand. But I just want to make sure. Thanks again!

[O Doyle Rules]

You're welcome. That is correct the EV is in Big Bets. This is an average of all players so if a person is a better than average player, their EV should be better.

[gamblore99]

I think those numbers are for all players and not necessarily good players.

[Peter_rus]

Yes, but you can see where are your weaker than average spots.

[ZeeJustin]

That sample size is way to small. You need at least 125 million hands before it becomes accurate.

[ZeeJustin]

I find it interesting that 72s and various other suited hands do worse than their offsuit counterparts. Obviously this is because fish are more likely to play them in unprofitable scenarios, but it's interesting nonetheless.

[TStoneMBD]

zjustin makes a very good point, and i didnt realize this when first looking at the table. it appears that this chart simply summarizes the ev of a hand in comparison to the other 9 hands dealt to a table rather than the value received from the hand by playing it out in its entirety. i highly doubt that 72o was played as often as AJo, it was simply dealt out nearly the same amount of times. since 72s is clearly a better hand than 72o, i guess zjustin is correct in his assessment that the chart needs even more hands to correctly analyze correct EV.

[MicroBob]

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since 72s is clearly a better hand than 72o, i guess zjustin is correct in his assessment that the chart needs even more hands to correctly analyze correct EV.


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zee's assessment wasn't to do with sample size.
it had to do with the fact that some players will play ANY 2 suited-cards but will fold 72o.

Thus, the bad players who actually do play 72s are making it a bigger loser on the pokerroom charts. 72o isn't losing as much because people aren't playing it as much.