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Flop 2 pair becomes check republic
Live 4/8, 9 handed, one-blind structure
No specific player reads, but table is fairly passive, with many preflops going unraised Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO calls, button folds, <font color="red"> BB raises </font>, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls, CO calls Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players, 10 sb) <font color="red"> BB bets </font> , UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, <font color="red"> Hero raises </font>, CO folds, BB calls, UTG+1 calls Turn: 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8 BB) BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="red"> Hero bets, BB raises </font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls River: T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (12 BB) BB checks, Hero checks Comments appreciated. 1) What does the turn CR mean -- am I behind, or do you 3-bet? 2) Do you bet the river or be glad you get a free showdown? 3) Can the Red Sox actually win 4 straight to take the ALCS? |
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Re: Flop 2 pair becomes check republic
PF raise by BB followed by his lead-out bet on the flop led me to believe that he holds AK, AQ, AJ of some kind. I think you're winning on the flop - most thinking players do not raise PF with A9, so I doubt you're behind in that sense. I'd be wary of an AcXc when I see that CR on the turn - he might be hoping to jam the pot on a flush draw. And I would probably check the river down. He's check-raised you once in the hand and might do it again if he's drawn out to the nuts (since your strength earlier shows him you've probably made a decent hand and he figured you'll bet this if he checks).
This is all assuming he is a thinking player, which most in 2/4 aren't. Go Red Sox! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] |
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Re: Flop 2 pair becomes check republic
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This is all assuming he is a thinking player, which most in 2/4 aren't. [/ QUOTE ] Well, it's 4/8, but still. I did put him on a big ace on the flop, but the turn CR weirded me out. I didn't think he'd jam the pot with a flush draw now that the pot is short-handed and he can get a cheaper (1 BB) river card and CR me there if he hits the flush. |
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Re: Flop 2 pair becomes check republic
(shameless bump)
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Re: Flop 2 pair becomes check republic
Sorry for typo. Substitute, "this is small stakes" for "2/4" and we should have it right.
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Re: Flop 2 pair becomes check republic
Think it through: what are his raising standards from the blinds? What are the odds he has better than one pair here?
I think he'll be overplaying AK here often enough to 3-bet the turn. I think the 3-bet is actually pretty easy. Also, when you post a hand with a hard turn decision, it's usually best to just stop at your action on the turn. |
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Re: Flop 2 pair becomes check republic
3 bet the turn, he doesn't have aces every time.
Where are all these games you play in with only 1 blind? I've never heard of that. |
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Re: Flop 2 pair becomes check republic
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3 bet the turn, he doesn't have aces every time. Where are all these games you play in with only 1 blind? I've never heard of that. [/ QUOTE ] I live in Los Angeles, and the casinos in Gardena are like that. These hands I post are all from live action at the Hustler, but the Normandie casino also has the one-blind structure. It's weird, but great for a player who knows what they're doing. I didn't 3-bet the turn because a) his preflop raise + leading out on the flop with an A in it screamed "i have TPGK" b) my raise indicated "so what, I can beat that" c) his check raise on the turn says "i just trapped you for 2 BB, so this is a monster" I didn't want to put him on a set of 9s or 8s, but it's conceivable. I didn't think he'd raise with A5 PF, but his turn reaction indicated that the 5 helped him. Nevertheless, if he really screws up flush draws (he could have had AKs, AQs [of clubs], etc.) then I had to check behind on the river for fear of another check raise. |
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Re: Flop 2 pair becomes check republic
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Nevertheless, if he really screws up flush draws (he could have had AKs, AQs [of clubs], etc.) then I had to check behind on the river for fear of another check raise. [/ QUOTE ] Given the action that took place I'm gonna go out on a limp here (sarcasm) and say that a river check-raise will NEVER occur here. PF raise, lead the flop, c/r the turn....no way he tries to c/r the river when a scare card hits. |
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Re: Flop 2 pair becomes check republic
Yeah, that makes sense. I was just so weirded out by that turn CR that I assumed I was behind often enough that a river bet could be unprofitable -- I could be betting for him (as in, he has me beat on the turn but is scared of the third flush card so he check-calls). I was glad to get a free showdown.
Results were, he showed AK and MHIG. Sure was an odd way to play AK, though -- smooth-calling a flop raise and then check-raising the turn. He did buy himself a free showdown, though, so maybe it ain't so odd. Evan -- I'm now curious to hear your thoughts on another hand I posted today -- scroll down a few posts to the "Pocket nines with dirty outs" thread. It's my most interesting hand in a while and I'd like to get some wise advice on it. |
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