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Old 10-19-2004, 05:26 PM
Trainwreck Trainwreck is offline
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Default BUSH: Why I CAN\'T see voting for him.

...cutting to the chase...

Give me one positive thing that has happened INSIDE the US of A since Bush became president, that he had something to do with it.

Just 1...

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Old 10-19-2004, 05:34 PM
Patrick del Poker Grande Patrick del Poker Grande is offline
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Default Re: BUSH: Why I CAN\'T see voting for him.

Tax cuts
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Old 10-20-2004, 02:26 AM
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Default Re: BUSH: Why I CAN\'T see voting for him.

Like I said name 1 thing.... Those tax cuts were a joke to most of us.

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Old 10-20-2004, 09:28 AM
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Default Re: BUSH: Why I CAN\'T see voting for him.

It's not about you (individuals) .... it's about the country ...... the tax cuts spurred the economy.
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Old 10-19-2004, 05:37 PM
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Default Re: BUSH: Why I CAN\'T see voting for him.

Well, since you asked...
1) The big one. Since September 11th, there has not been a terror attack on US soil.

2) After the sept 11th attack the economy has held up relitively well. An objectionable observer pre-911 would have told you how badly the economy would tank, and bush's tax policied have helped decrease the effect.

3) Home ownership is at an all-time high

4) You are now safer (read: safer not safe) on public transportation

5) You now have more money in your pocket and the government has less, which is ALWAYS a good thing

6) Al Gore went crazy and showed who he really is and why he was not fit for command
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Old 10-19-2004, 05:40 PM
ThaSaltCracka ThaSaltCracka is offline
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Default Re: BUSH: Why I CAN\'T see voting for him.

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5) You now have more money in your pocket and the government has less, which is ALWAYS a good thing


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Thats funny, my bank account, paycheck, and pocket all look the same.
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Old 10-19-2004, 06:07 PM
JimBob2232 JimBob2232 is offline
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Default Re: BUSH: Why I CAN\'T see voting for him.

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Thats funny, my bank account, paycheck, and pocket all look the same.

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Well this is your own fault then. For example, take a single person earning 25k in taxable income.

2001: Paid 3,754 (Effective Rate 15.0%)
2000: Paid 3,754 (Effective Rate 15.0%)
2002: Paid 3,454 (Effective Rate 13.8%)
2003: Paid 3,404 (Effective Rate 13.6%)

This random SINGLE person saw his taxes fall by $350 dollars a year under George W. Bush, and his tax rate fell by nearly 10 percent. These are undeniable facts. If that money is not in your pocket its because you spent it. If that money is not in your paycheck, that means the government is keeping it interest free so you get a big rebate check at the end of the year.
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Old 10-19-2004, 06:11 PM
ThaSaltCracka ThaSaltCracka is offline
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Default Re: BUSH: Why I CAN\'T see voting for him.

My fault? okay.... yeah because I am the one taking money out of my paycheck before I even get it.... right.....
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Old 10-19-2004, 06:15 PM
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Default Re: BUSH: Why I CAN\'T see voting for him.

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Thats funny, my bank account, paycheck, and pocket all look the same.

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Well this is your own fault then. For example, take a single person earning 25k in taxable income.

2001: Paid 3,754 (Effective Rate 15.0%)
2000: Paid 3,754 (Effective Rate 15.0%)
2002: Paid 3,454 (Effective Rate 13.8%)
2003: Paid 3,404 (Effective Rate 13.6%)

This random SINGLE person saw his taxes fall by $350 dollars a year under George W. Bush, and his tax rate fell by nearly 10 percent. These are undeniable facts. If that money is not in your pocket its because you spent it. If that money is not in your paycheck, that means the government is keeping it interest free so you get a big rebate check at the end of the year.

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Yup, and when it comes time to make up the deficit for those tax cuts, we'll be long gone or retired and it'll be someone else's problem. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 10-19-2004, 06:19 PM
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Default Re: BUSH: Why I CAN\'T see voting for him.

But the question is, does that $350 or 10% reduction change his overall wealth? Does it cover the increase over the last three or four years in healthcare costs? The increase in state and local taxes to cover federal government shortfalls? Does it cover the increase in education costs, with local budget shortfalls? Does it cover the additional cost every month of buying a single tank of gas?

The current administration’s tax policy is in effect the same as the corner check cashing store, writ large. That $350 is going to cost him more next year and the year after, as the interest piles up on the national debt. Not to mention the $30,000 refunds to the top tax bracket, that coincidentally have created NO net new jobs in four years?

I like the fact that I got a nice refund last year. But the question needs to be, are you better off now that you were four years ago? The answer on just about any level is an unequivocal NO.

Am I safer now than I was four years ago? NO

Am I wealthier now than I was four years ago? NO

Do I have more job security now than four years ago? NO

Is my REAL income up in the last four years? NO

Does John Kerry have all the answers? I doubt it, but at least I feel he understands the questions....
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