15/30 PP 77 perfectly?

BabyJesus · #1 10-10-2004, 02:49 PM

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises, Hero calls,
I just call here cuz MP3 was a total donkey, he would call raises with anything so I don't think an isolation 3 bet is in order here. With the donkey calling 80% of the time here it makes other people like the blinds to come into the pot. If i flop a set i expect to be able to win a big pot here.
MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB bets, BB calls, UTG+2 raises, Hero calls, MP3 folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Excellent I hit my set here. I was to keep the really week hands in here and then charge them on the turn. Especially MP3 who would call people down with bottom pair constantly.

Turn: (9 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+2 bets, Hero raises, SB calls, BB folds, UTG+2 3-bets, Hero caps, SB calls, UTG+2 calls.

I put him on AQ around here hoping its not AA or QQ. I'm really happy if it is AQ because i expect to get more bets out of him on the river.

River: (21 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG+2 bets, Hero calls, SB folds.
VOMIT

Final Pot: 23 BB

Results in white below: 
UTG+2 has Qd As (full house, queens full of aces).
Hero has 7s 7h (full house, sevens full of queens).
Outcome: UTG+2 wins 23 BB. 

Comments?

bicyclekick · #2 10-10-2004, 03:10 PM

I probably couldn't do it in the heat of battle, but you made a read and he hit that hand and you still called. The only other hand he really could have is AK and if that's the case he's also a total donkey.

I know you're getting over 20 to 1 but still...

BabyJesus · #3 10-10-2004, 03:57 PM

I don't think i can fold on the river when its laying me 22:1

surfdoc · #4 10-10-2004, 05:57 PM

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I just call here cuz MP3 was a total donkey, he would call raises with anything so I don't think an isolation 3 bet is in order here.

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Are calling and raising the only options preflop?

balkii · #5 10-10-2004, 08:41 PM

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I just call here cuz MP3 was a total donkey, he would call raises with anything so I don't think an isolation 3 bet is in order here.

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Are calling and raising the only options preflop?

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When he states this :

If i flop a set i expect to be able to win a big pot here.

the answer to your question is yes.

surfdoc · #6 10-10-2004, 09:51 PM

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When he states this :

If i flop a set i expect to be able to win a big pot here.

the answer to your question is yes.

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Who doesn't expect to win a big pot when flopping a set? Are you agreeing that preflop is raise or call? Seems to me that a fold is in order. Out of position with multiple players who can still possibly find a real hand and no gurantee that the donkey or the blinds will come along. Further, hero is playing against an early position raiser who most likely has two overcards or a bigger pair. Meh.

nykenny · #7 10-11-2004, 01:02 PM

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When he states this :

If i flop a set i expect to be able to win a big pot here.

the answer to your question is yes.

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Who doesn't expect to win a big pot when flopping a set? Are you agreeing that preflop is raise or call? Seems to me that a fold is in order. Out of position with multiple players who can still possibly find a real hand and no gurantee that the donkey or the blinds will come along. Further, hero is playing against an early position raiser who most likely has two overcards or a bigger pair. Meh.

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EASY FOLD preflop. I may reraise (5%) when I feel extra witty.

BabyJesus · #8 10-11-2004, 01:17 PM

Does everyone agree that 77 should be folding in this spot? I do think i have a leak playing small and medium pairs preflop. Based on my read of MP3 it still doesn't turn this into a call? I expect him to limp about 80% of the time or more. With all the cold calls i figure some other people will come into the pot with random suited connectors and the blinds are fairly loose preflop and will come along as well. As for the river, easy call? try to raise for value? or trust my read and muck? I'm going with just call down. My worst fear was SB having some crappy Q and doing something stupid like c/r and i get trapped for 2 more bets if the preflop raiser does in fact have AQ or AA.

Ian J · #9 10-11-2004, 01:34 PM

Um... no. Folding is one. And I think it's the best one.

Ian J · #10 10-11-2004, 01:37 PM

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Are calling and raising the only options preflop?

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Um... no. Folding is one. And I think it's the best one.