2 QTs hands. Party 3/6.

bisonbison · #1 10-08-2004, 06:54 PM

Contained below are 2 QTs hands from the same table within an orbit of each other.

For the first hand, I'd like comments on the whole hand. For the second, I'm just going to start with the preflop action, cause postflop sorta played itself.

player reads are included with each hand:

Hand 1:

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, UTG+2 (Reasonable) raises, 1 fold, MP2 (LAG) calls, 2 folds, Button calls, Hero calls, BB (V.Loose-Any2Suited) calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 players)
Hero checks, V.Loose-Any2Suited bets, UTG folds, Reasonable raises, LAG calls, Button folds, Hero calls, V.Loose-Any2Suited calls.

Turn: (10 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, V.Loose-Any2Suited checks, Reasonable bets, LAG raises, Hero calls, V.Loose-Any2Suited calls, Reasonable calls.

River: (18 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, V.Loose-Any2Suited checks, Reasonable checks, LAG bets, Hero raises...

bisonbison · #2 10-08-2004, 06:55 PM

Hand 2: (note v.loose-any2suited is to my immediate left)

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 (LAG) calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, Hero raises...

Trix · #3 10-08-2004, 07:03 PM

Think I´d raise T9s+,KJs, but limp KTs and below here.

Brian · #4 10-08-2004, 11:03 PM

Hi Trix,

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Think I´d raise T9s+,KJs, but limp KTs and below here.

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This just doesn't make any sense to me at all. With 3 limpers to you in MP3 (the CO-1), you'd limp with KTs but raise T9s? You are aware that KTs is a much better hand than T9s, right? Even with 3 limpers, I'd MUCH rather have KTs than T9s. KTs should be an auto-raise here, don't even think twice about it.

-Brian

Trix · #5 10-09-2004, 08:33 AM

They play differently after the flop though and I think the connector will benefit more from the pot beeing twice the size than the KT.

mikeyvegas · #6 10-08-2004, 07:20 PM

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Hand 2: (note v.loose-any2suited is to my immediate left)

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 (LAG) calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, Hero raises...

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I would not raise in this position after 3 limpers and a loose player on your left.

Chris Daddy Cool · #7 10-08-2004, 08:01 PM

i think you purposely posted hand 2 just to get me to bite.

of course i like the raise. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Joe Tall · #8 10-09-2004, 11:35 AM

Hand 2

Raising or limping is fine. If you can gain position and have opponents that limp w/cheese, I prefer raising.

Peace,
Joe Tall

Trix · #9 10-08-2004, 06:59 PM

I like 3betting the flop, the river will depend how often I think some of the people between will call if I bet out, but it will usually be a bet I guess.

sthief09 · #10 10-08-2004, 07:10 PM

1st hand: loose call preflop. bet the river and 3-bet when he raises. I don't like shutting out the field here.

2nd hand: QTs isn't a very good hand (it's good, just not that good). I'd just limp