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blackaces13 · #1 10-02-2004, 02:19 AM

Comments on all streets appreciated.

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero raises, 3 folds, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, MP2 calls, Hero raises, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks.

River: (9.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds.

Final Pot: 11.25 BB
Main Pot: 11.25 BB, between Hero and UTG+1.

zram21 · #2 10-02-2004, 02:21 AM

Looks good to me.

Nice hand.

Ajax410 · #3 10-02-2004, 02:23 AM

I don't know how much I like the pre-flop raise, but aside from that, it looks solid. Personally, with a bunch of limpers ahead of me, I would just call and hope for more callers - your hand is probably speculative - it doesn't have THAT much high card value - and you are likely to flop some kind of flush or straight draw - because of this, you'd love to have many callers, giving you pot odds to draw to a big hand. As it worked out, after the flop you played this very well - you should be aggressive with middle pair, especially in a big pot when you're the pre-flop raiser - I would also bet the river...however, your choice is solid also...well done!

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Piiop · #4 10-02-2004, 03:07 AM

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I don't know how much I like the pre-flop raise, but aside from that, it looks solid. Personally, with a bunch of limpers ahead of me, I would just call and hope for more callers - your hand is probably speculative - it doesn't have THAT much high card value - and you are likely to flop some kind of flush or straight draw - because of this, you'd love to have many callers, giving you pot odds to draw to a big hand. As it worked out, after the flop you played this very well - you should be aggressive with middle pair, especially in a big pot when you're the pre-flop raiser - I would also bet the river...however, your choice is solid also...well done!

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This should be a routine preflop raise for you.

At these limits, limpers limp with everything, and although your hand is not premium, it's certainly better than the limpers' hands. So, you want to get in more money with the best hand, even if your edge is small. You're right, you do want a lot of callers when you have big draws, and you still do, except now the pot is 2x as big which is better for you.

KTs plays well multiway exactly because of it's straight and flush potential. Instead of calling along and hoping to hit, you're now building a pot so when you hit, you when a big one. Raising preflop gives you odds to stay around and hit your big draws.

You also have position which is great. Opponents will frequently check to the raiser. You can use this opportunity to either bet or take a free card, which is very useful.

Ajax410 · #5 10-02-2004, 03:35 AM

You don't think a raise is going to chase out any players? When I'm trying to assert myself at a table this is a definite raise in this position - but I might just limp otherwise...especially with many limpers ahead of me...I'm willing to consider that it's the wrong play though.

Bukem_ · #6 10-02-2004, 10:50 AM

It's really not that complicated.

You raise preflop when you have the best of it.
KTs is not having the best of it preflop.
Limping on speculative hands that play well multiway is very reasonable.

Piiop · #7 10-02-2004, 11:28 AM

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It's really not that complicated.

You raise preflop when you have the best of it.
KTs is not having the best of it preflop.
Limping on speculative hands that play well multiway is very reasonable.

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According to PokerStove , KTs against 3 limping hands and 2 random hands has almost 30% pot equity. That may not be the "best" of it, but thats a pretty huge edge.

detruncate · #8 10-02-2004, 02:22 AM

Well played.

ArturiusX · #9 10-02-2004, 02:28 AM

nice flop work, this is a good post for the rookies; remember, a raise can save you money on the turn!

Piiop · #10 10-02-2004, 03:02 AM

I would bet the turn here and check behind on the river unimproved. If you're check-raised it's an easy fold. By checking, you may be giving free cards to opponents holding overcards and str8 draws, and it's possible your hand is best.

Since you improved on the river, betting is good.