Question for Greg, Tabletalk strategy on final table

[ThePopinjay]

You told Glenn Hughes, "I think we got a race if I call, a coinflip." Hughes very nonchalantly replied, "Rock and roll baby, came here to gamble." That confirmed he had overcards, or a small pair, which you have good chances vs. with 55. Surely not an overpair. Only after he said that did you call. Was this a situation where you used tabletalk to garner information? and how often do you do it?

[J_V]

I think that's what happened. Greg owned Hughes here.

[mtdurham]

So what exactly would he have said had he been holding pocket jacks? "Nah I've got a big hand, you're probably a big dog.." ?

I think Greg assumed Hughes had overcards because there was like a 90% chance of that being true with the range of hands Hughes woulda pushed with.

[betgo]

If Raymer was eliciting information, he was doing it in a subtle way, as he didn't actually ask Hughes a question.

Hughes comments may have been strong means weak tell. He might not react that way with a big pair. He might have been better off keeping his mouth shut.

[ThePopinjay]

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Hughes comments may have been strong means weak tell.

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I don't think "came here to gamble" means strong. I think he made a big mistake giving up a ton of info to Greg because he knew he would be content if he got knocked out there because he was still getting like a mill $. He still shouldn't have shown that to Greg.

[DimensionPresident]

I think he meant that his comments were colorful "strong", not "these cards will kill you!" strong. As in he was excitable.

If he would have sat there with a stone cold stare I think that screams more "big pocket pair" than anything else.

I think it would be easy to rule out a flat out bluff at that point.

[djack]

It's easy to say that Hughes shouldn't have said that.

And he probably shouldn't have. But it's not a big difference either way.

[Deorum]

One thing that you guys are overlooking is that Hughes may
actually have wanted to be called by a small pocket
pair. He may have decided that his best chances for winning
the whole thing would be to double up on that hand, rather
than trying to grind his way up to chip leader, in which
case his telling Raymer "yes, I have overcards - let us run
it out" would not only have accomplished that goal, but
would have also been tactically sound in the sense that
Hughes would be getting Raymer to do something that Hughes
wanted him to do.

[betgo]

I think you are right. Hughes deduced that Raymer had an underpair, and he wanted to gamble. Visions of $5M were dancing through his head. He had a hand that was only a slight underdog to an underpair. He was encouraging Raymer to call. However, I would think he would be better off just picking up the blinds.

[pshreck]

Yeah, I think he wanted a call when he heard that. He WANTS a coinflip at this point (assuming he cant get better). When Greg says "I think it's a coinflip", Hughes knows hes most likely not dominated and wants to get a chance to double up.