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09-16-2004, 01:52 AM
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Heads-Up Limit Hold\'em PF
On one of the sites I play there is quite a bit of heads-up limit play, with the button being the small blind (unlike Stars).
From my observations, the majority of people limp in most of the time from the button. This seems wrong to me, as I want to push my positional advantage as much as possible, especially when A-high and K-high can win unimproved. Here's a brief outline of some possible reasonings behind each possible pf strat: 1) Always limp - You get to see more flops in position, you might be able to play more hands than if you always raise (???), the pot is smaller on the flop, so your bet will have more levarage when your opponent checks, and you can throw away more marginal hands when your opponent leads into you. 2) Always raise - you push your advantage early, you don't give your opponent's really poor hands a chance to hit for free (they have to pay to play). #1 and #2 share the property of not giving away much about your hand at the start. 3) Raise sometimes, limp sometimes - You can start pushing with your high card hands and go for odds with hands like 45s, 34s, 22. Obviously with 3) you have to mix it up, limp with high cards hands sometimes, raise with drawing hands sometimes, limp re-raise sometimes, etc. It's quite clear that against all but the worst opponents you have to mix up your play, but before the flop just doing the same thing every time seems like the most deceptive and most profitable play. Comments? 
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#6
09-16-2004, 03:55 PM
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Re: Heads-Up Limit Hold\'em PF
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA you didn't just tell me to read HPFAP did you? This is why I don't contribute in this forum. I hate getting condescended to by some newbie, and then needing to repeatedly justify my presence. If you want to play sometime shoot me a PM. I'd like to see you "easily counter" me. I have played hundreds of thousands of hands of heads up poker. I was playing 1-1 professionally before poker became the new black. Raising most of your hands preflop from the button is the best way to play, and raising all of your hands is only a small mistake, if it is a mistake at all (depending on opponent). If you don't belive me, there is some guy named Lederer who supposedly raises 100% from the button. I don't have the time or motivation to spend 1500 hours arguing every small detail with everyone who isn't completely clear, especially since I've done it before, and especially since this one is so basic. If you want believe me, fine, if not, that's fine too, but if you want to talk to me like I'm some idiot that can't understand the incomplete 5 pages on S/H play in HPFAP that every wannabe mediocre s/h player clings too, save it.
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#7
09-17-2004, 08:53 PM
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Explanation
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A cursory glance through the HU section in HFAP clearly exaplains why and when it is most effective. [/ QUOTE ] I can understand the anger this induced. * * * If you don't understand why raising most of your hands from the SBB is correct, here's a simple explanation. Assume a 2/4 game in which you both start with 4 chips. If you use this chart - http://www.jazbo.com/poker/huholdem.html - and your noggin, it is not too hard to see that the correct strategy is to raise all but the worst 13 starting hands from the small blind button (SBB) - thats 86% of your hands - and to call all hands in the BB. Now the short stacks mean I've skipped 3.5 streets of play. But let me ask you this: who are these extra streets of play going to favour? The SBB, of course. Every street of play after the flop increases his value simply because of the positional advantage. So while raising 86% of your hands is correct when you only play one street, adding extra streets and extra play means you should play MORE hands still. I hope I have enlightened some of you. Richie Appendix: noggin=brain
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