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08-29-2004, 08:01 PM
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30-60 Turn Decision
Very good 30-60 game, not too agg.
I am UTG with 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and Limp, Good player in MP raises, LMP calls, CO calls, button calls, SB calls BB folds, 6 to the flop. FLop is 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] I check Good, tight MP bets, folded to the button who calls, SB raises, I call, Good MP 3 bets, Button folds, SB calls, I 4 bet, MP and SB call. Turn is the A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] I bet Good MP raises, SB 3 bets, I ???? 
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#2
08-29-2004, 09:01 PM
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Re: 30-60 Turn Decision
fold-a-rama
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#3
08-29-2004, 09:04 PM
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Re: 30-60 Turn Decision
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fold-a-rama [/ QUOTE ] No way. He's got outs.
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#5
08-29-2004, 10:00 PM
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Re: 30-60 Turn Decision
that is ridiculous. assuming one of the players has to have a bigger set is wrong. they could both have a flush, sb could have a smaller set. there are just too many hands that 66 wants to keep playing against here. call two more bets cold or if you think it will accomplish anything (other than disguising mp or sb's hand a bit) go ahead and cap it. youre seeing a river card here. count the pot kids.
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#6
08-29-2004, 10:13 PM
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Re: 30-60 Turn Decision
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that is ridiculous. assuming one of the players has to have a bigger set is wrong. they could both have a flush, sb could have a smaller set. there are just too many hands that 66 wants to keep playing against here. call two more bets cold or if you think it will accomplish anything (other than disguising mp or sb's hand a bit) go ahead and cap it. youre seeing a river card here. count the pot kids. [/ QUOTE ] mike, im just messin with tyler here. once that turn falls you're stuck callin. i guess i sometimes forget that sarcasm is only gunna be realized by those who know you ... and i think tyler knows im a sarcastic bastard [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] -Barron
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#7
08-29-2004, 10:33 PM
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Re: 30-60 Turn Decision
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] fold-a-rama [/ QUOTE ] No way. He's got outs. [/ QUOTE ] if by "outs" you mean a 6 then yea...he's got outs lol... -Barron [/ QUOTE ] Are you kidding? He could even still be ahead at this point. It's a call.
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#8
08-29-2004, 10:23 PM
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Re: 30-60 Turn Decision
SB is representing a flush and, unless he's insane, probably has it. What does MP have? He's a good, tight player. He raised preflop, 3-bet the flop, and now raises the turn. The smallest hand he can have is ArKd. There are 3 of those. But he could also have AA or 99, and there are 6 of those. I really can't see him having any other hands here. Maybe KdKr??? But I think that hand would just call.
The pot is quite large, 19 BB. You're almost certainly behind. I'm guessing that 2/3 of the time you have 1 out and 1/3 of the time you have 10 outs, so that's an average of 4 outs. So you need 10.5:1, but the pot is only giving you 9.5:1. You might be able to make up for the shortfall with some implied odds, but you'll also get reamed if the "out" that hits is actually false. I say it's a fold, but it's really really close.
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#9
08-29-2004, 10:32 PM
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Re: 30-60 Turn Decision
"The pot is quite large, 19 BB....I say it's a fold, but it's really really close."
you said it. and nothing else in between matters. this is really really bad advice.
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#10
08-29-2004, 10:35 PM
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Re: 30-60 Turn Decision
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"The pot is quite large, 19 BB....I say it's a fold, but it's really really close." you said it. and nothing else in between matters. this is really really bad advice. [/ QUOTE ] Do you stop counting outs once the pot crosses a certain threshold?
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