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Old 08-16-2004, 10:09 PM
David Steele David Steele is offline
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Default SSH is not the answer for any set of serious players!

SSH is not the answer for any set of serious players!

....But every serious player should buy it, it is a great book.


If you are a B&M player, you need to play middle limit stakes to make serious money, to beat the rake and make up for the slow dealing.

If you are an online player, you want to play bigger then the 50-cent games.

In the games you will play:
e.g.live 6-12, 10-20, 15-30 or online 2-4, 3-6, 5-10

The games are not always loose enough all the time
to get by with only what you learn in SSH.

You need to know everything from HEFAP as well, plus a lot of ideas that you will not find in print ( but may have learned in these forums ). Essentially, all the concepts and ideas that are for non-loose situations. e.g Blind stealing,
heads up play, balancing your turn play, semi-bluffing, playing the players and a couple hundred other things. Poker is not too easy.

On the other hand, in all those games, you will also face some very loose periods and situations. Ed's book is great and everyone should read it to fill in their gaps and clarify their own fuzzy areas. Just don't plan on buying that one book and expect to destroy every online 3-6 game you would chose to play in.


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Old 08-17-2004, 12:22 AM
Beavis68 Beavis68 is offline
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Default Re: SSH is not the answer for any set of serious players!

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clarify their own fuzzy areas.

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Dont worry yourself with my fuzzy area please.
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Old 08-17-2004, 10:21 AM
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Default Re: SSH is not the answer for any set of serious players!

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Just don't plan on buying that one book and expect to destroy every online 3-6 game you would chose to play in.

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I assume that this means that the 3/6 game would not be soft enough to qualify for SSHE.
If that's the case, why are you chosing to play in it, when there are plenty of games that you could destroy?
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Old 08-17-2004, 11:00 AM
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I assume that this means that the 3/6 game would not be soft enough to qualify for SSHE. If that's the case, why are you chosing to play in it,

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Even if a game is very soft and loose, hands come up that require ideas from non-loose games, however here are a few reasons why you could be in a different kind of game.

1. There are just not that many super loose 3-6 games online.

2. You may be playing a bonus off at a site that has tighter play.

3. You may want to play in a game with some known terrible players but the rest may be fairly tight ( though perhaps not good ).

4. You may want to multitable a lot of games and not want to switch games constantly.

5. You may wish to take advantage of 6-max tables.

6. You may want to keep playing with a super live one, even if
nearly everyone else at the table leaves.


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Old 08-17-2004, 12:51 PM
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Default Re: SSH is not the answer for any set of serious players!

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1. There are just not that many super loose 3-6 games online.

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[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] This has not been my experience at all. Unless by "super loose" you mean every player sees every flop, you're way off base.

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5. You may wish to take advantage of 6-max tables

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SSH is directly applicable to 6-max tables. I would recommend it over HPFAP.
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Old 08-17-2004, 12:55 PM
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This has not been my experience at all. Unless by "super loose" you mean every player sees every flop, you're way off base.

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In my experience, most online 3/6 games quaily as one of Miller's "tight" loose games.
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Old 08-18-2004, 05:43 PM
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This has not been my experience at all. Unless by "super loose" you mean every player sees every flop, you're way off base.

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In my experience, most online 3/6 games quaily as one of Miller's "tight" loose games.

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I agree espicially during the UK late hours (Us afternoon and early evening) as yet I have not had to tuen the starting hand page to the loose games.

What is interesting is that my vpip has stayed more or less what it was (within a percentage) but my pfr is up a bit more. Only 1,500 hands so far though.
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Old 08-17-2004, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: SSH is not the answer for any set of serious players!

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Unless by "super loose" you mean every player sees every flop

[/ QUOTE ] No I don't mean that. The 3-6 at party is just not that loose all the time. If you can't handle an old-style vegas 10-20, you are giving up some winnings in these games.


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SSH is directly applicable to 6-max tables. I would recommend it over HPFAP.

[/ QUOTE ] I would suggest knowing both books and also some other material not in print.
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Old 08-17-2004, 12:53 PM
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6. You may want to keep playing with a super live one, even if
nearly everyone else at the table leaves.


D.

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Yes, only an idiot would play a maniac heads-up...

Die, will ya?
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Old 08-17-2004, 01:36 PM
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Yes, only an idiot would play a maniac heads-up...

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I am not sure what you are saying. The live ones are not always maniacs. What is wrong with playing heads-up?


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Die, will ya?

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You talkin to me?

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