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$109 facing a bet into a dry side pot, I turn into an idiot
I'm not eager to post a hand that makes me look like such an idiot, but I've shown this hand to a couple people and I've been asked to post it.
PartyPoker, Big Blind is t300 (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com UTG (t1945) Button (t1990) Hero (t5550) BB (t515) Preflop: Hero is in SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, Button calls t300, Hero calls t150, <font color="red">BB t215 (All-in)</font>, Button calls t215, Hero calls t215 Flop: (t1545) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players) Hero checks, <font color="red">Button t1475 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font> Turn: (t3020) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players) River: (t3020) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players) I'm not going to hide the results, you are all big boys and girls. BB has Kh, 6h Button has Qd, 6d I know I have a lot of chips. I know I have top pair. I just thought it was unfathomable that he could bet here without crushing me. I mean the average player HATES betting here EVER. Some opponents, myself included, will bet out of the check-down scenerio, BUT NOT WITHOUT A HAND!!!! Was this a bad fold, a really bad fold, or the worst damn fold in the history of the earth? I know that was one of the worst freakin bets I've ever seen, and thankfully that dumb bastard busted out 4th. |
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Re: $109 facing a bet into a dry side pot, I turn into an idiot
Wow for real? I dump that ish with the quickness.
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Re: $109 facing a bet into a dry side pot, I turn into an idiot
I'll take partial credit/blame/whatever for asking microbet to post this.
Before he told me the results I said I'd probably call most of the time because of the pot odds and the possibility of either having the best hand or sucking out. I'm not sure if I was right or not. I dont think folding or calling is horrible here. I certainly dont think he played it like an idiot. I hope to see lots of other opinions on this hand. |
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Re: $109 facing a bet into a dry side pot, I turn into an idiot
Microbet, just out of curiosity, did you consider pushing pre-flop? If not, was it because of some read on the button? Seems like he'd need a monster to call, so by pushing you'd get heads up with shortstack with an above average hand and 300 extra chips to sweeten the pot.
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Re: $109 facing a bet into a dry side pot, I turn into an idiot
I'm not always the biggest bubble pwner in the world, but I had been pwning this one pretty mercilessly. I wouldn't have expected button to be surprised by a push from me, so I didn't think I should do it. In fact, I pushed over his completion on the previous hand.
If I had been really quiet and he just made the "I just want help bust shorty" play, I would have felt differently. |
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Re: $109 facing a bet into a dry side pot, I turn into an idiot
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I'm not always the biggest bubble pwner in the world, but I had been pwning this one pretty mercilessly. I wouldn't have expected button to be surprised by a push from me, so I didn't think I should do it. In fact, I pushed over his completion on the previous hand. If I had been really quiet and he just made the "I just want help bust shorty" play, I would have felt differently. [/ QUOTE ] Thanks. That makes perfect sense to me and would have been my thinking at the time, given those circumstances. As the hand played out, I would have folded as well. |
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Re: $109 facing a bet into a dry side pot, I turn into an idiot
How is hero getting fourth?!
Call. Yugoslav Who also likes the idea of pushing preflop before BB is allin.....some may fold there and then ur FE is HUGE! |
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Re: $109 facing a bet into a dry side pot, I turn into an idiot
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How is hero getting fourth?! [/ QUOTE ] I don't think that's the issue, so much as firing off another 1/3 of our stack and giving up excellent chip position going into ITM. We're probably unlikely enough to bust at all that giving up a big chunk of stack to another opponent gives up substantially more equity than what we gain by really guaranteeing that BB busts. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, though, I have a hard time seeing how a hand that beats me gets here given the action we've seen. |
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Re: $109 facing a bet into a dry side pot, I turn into an idiot
Yeah, hero's not getting fourth, and thankfully got 1st. Hero just thought there was almost no chance he wasn't owned. Hero was wrong. Hero thought villian would only limp there with a strong hand. Hero was wrong.
FE is huge, but after that play I wouldn't count on villian recognizing that fact, but pushing preflop might have been best. I'm exaggerating in calling myself an idiot. I don't think it was terrible to put villian on a huge hand. I don't really know. I guess you should never go below 10% or so on the chances of villian just being completely brain dead. |
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Re: $109 facing a bet into a dry side pot, I turn into an idiot
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Yeah, hero's not getting fourth, and thankfully got 1st. Hero just thought there was almost no chance he wasn't owned. Hero was wrong. Hero thought villian would only limp there with a strong hand. Hero was wrong. FE is huge, but after that play I wouldn't count on villian recognizing that fact, but pushing preflop might have been best. I'm exaggerating in calling myself an idiot. I don't think it was terrible to put villian on a huge hand. I don't really know. I guess you should never go below 10% or so on the chances of villian just being completely brain dead. [/ QUOTE ] NO; you weren't exaggerating; You're an Idiot [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] |
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