ok with 99?

trentcroad · #1 04-10-2005, 04:07 AM

Is a flop raise the correct play here or should I be waiting for the turn?
The two others r both fish.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (7 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, Hero calls, 3 folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, BB folds, UTG calls, Hero raises, SB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (5 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, SB calls, UTG calls.

River: (8 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, UTG calls, Hero raises, SB calls, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 14 BB

Piiop · #2 04-10-2005, 04:09 AM

Easy raise preflop, especially 7-handed.

I would be fine with waiting until the turn to raise here.

cold_cash · #3 04-10-2005, 04:11 AM

Consider raising pre-flop here, especially 7 handed, and especially if by "fish" you mean that UTG is too loose.

Post flop is fine. Why wait?

wrto4556 · #4 04-10-2005, 04:42 AM

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Piiop · #5 04-10-2005, 05:12 AM

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Bets on the turn are twice as big as the ones on the flop. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Player stuck inbetween.

Only draw is flush, which you can't protect against either way.

wrto4556 · #6 04-10-2005, 05:47 AM

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Player stuck inbetween.

Only draw is flush, which you can't protect against either way.

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Do you raise a [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] turn if the action gos the same?

ThePenguin · #7 04-10-2005, 05:53 AM

I would have. Would I be right? Anyone not raise?

marching_on_together · #8 04-10-2005, 05:55 AM

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Player stuck inbetween.

Only draw is flush, which you can't protect against either way.

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Do you raise a [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] turn if the action gos the same?

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yep

Piiop · #9 04-10-2005, 06:06 AM

Yeah boyee.

Carmine · #10 04-10-2005, 08:11 AM

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Player stuck inbetween.

Only draw is flush, which you can't protect against either way.

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Do you raise a [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] turn if the action gos the same?

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First off I prefer to raise the turn here for the reasons Pilop gives. Now if a [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] falls on the turn I don't know if I raise it. Not because I fear the flush so much, but because I don't want to lose the other players. Note the pot is not grand so should I burn myself by letting weak hands continue I won't be happy but it's not a disaster either.

EDIT: Wait I need to think a [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] turn through better. I maybe should raise to charge a flush draw and an Ace will
still have trouble folding. If I get 3-bet on the turn I still have outs to a FH. Yeah that sounds better... I think I need coffee!!