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I'm not eager to post a hand that makes me look like such an idiot, but I've shown this hand to a couple people and I've been asked to post it.
PartyPoker, Big Blind is t300 (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com UTG (t1945) Button (t1990) Hero (t5550) BB (t515) Preflop: Hero is in SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, Button calls t300, Hero calls t150, <font color="red">BB t215 (All-in)</font>, Button calls t215, Hero calls t215 Flop: (t1545) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players) Hero checks, <font color="red">Button t1475 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font> Turn: (t3020) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players) River: (t3020) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players) I'm not going to hide the results, you are all big boys and girls. BB has Kh, 6h Button has Qd, 6d I know I have a lot of chips. I know I have top pair. I just thought it was unfathomable that he could bet here without crushing me. I mean the average player HATES betting here EVER. Some opponents, myself included, will bet out of the check-down scenerio, BUT NOT WITHOUT A HAND!!!! Was this a bad fold, a really bad fold, or the worst damn fold in the history of the earth? I know that was one of the worst freakin bets I've ever seen, and thankfully that dumb bastard busted out 4th. |
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Wow for real? I dump that ish with the quickness.
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I'll take partial credit/blame/whatever for asking microbet to post this.
Before he told me the results I said I'd probably call most of the time because of the pot odds and the possibility of either having the best hand or sucking out. I'm not sure if I was right or not. I dont think folding or calling is horrible here. I certainly dont think he played it like an idiot. I hope to see lots of other opinions on this hand. |
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Microbet, just out of curiosity, did you consider pushing pre-flop? If not, was it because of some read on the button? Seems like he'd need a monster to call, so by pushing you'd get heads up with shortstack with an above average hand and 300 extra chips to sweeten the pot.
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I'm not always the biggest bubble pwner in the world, but I had been pwning this one pretty mercilessly. I wouldn't have expected button to be surprised by a push from me, so I didn't think I should do it. In fact, I pushed over his completion on the previous hand.
If I had been really quiet and he just made the "I just want help bust shorty" play, I would have felt differently. |
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I'm not always the biggest bubble pwner in the world, but I had been pwning this one pretty mercilessly. I wouldn't have expected button to be surprised by a push from me, so I didn't think I should do it. In fact, I pushed over his completion on the previous hand. If I had been really quiet and he just made the "I just want help bust shorty" play, I would have felt differently. [/ QUOTE ] Thanks. That makes perfect sense to me and would have been my thinking at the time, given those circumstances. As the hand played out, I would have folded as well. |
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How is hero getting fourth?!
Call. Yugoslav Who also likes the idea of pushing preflop before BB is allin.....some may fold there and then ur FE is HUGE! |
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How is hero getting fourth?! [/ QUOTE ] I don't think that's the issue, so much as firing off another 1/3 of our stack and giving up excellent chip position going into ITM. We're probably unlikely enough to bust at all that giving up a big chunk of stack to another opponent gives up substantially more equity than what we gain by really guaranteeing that BB busts. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, though, I have a hard time seeing how a hand that beats me gets here given the action we've seen. |
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Yeah, hero's not getting fourth, and thankfully got 1st. Hero just thought there was almost no chance he wasn't owned. Hero was wrong. Hero thought villian would only limp there with a strong hand. Hero was wrong.
FE is huge, but after that play I wouldn't count on villian recognizing that fact, but pushing preflop might have been best. I'm exaggerating in calling myself an idiot. I don't think it was terrible to put villian on a huge hand. I don't really know. I guess you should never go below 10% or so on the chances of villian just being completely brain dead. |
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Yeah, hero's not getting fourth, and thankfully got 1st. Hero just thought there was almost no chance he wasn't owned. Hero was wrong. Hero thought villian would only limp there with a strong hand. Hero was wrong. FE is huge, but after that play I wouldn't count on villian recognizing that fact, but pushing preflop might have been best. I'm exaggerating in calling myself an idiot. I don't think it was terrible to put villian on a huge hand. I don't really know. I guess you should never go below 10% or so on the chances of villian just being completely brain dead. [/ QUOTE ] NO; you weren't exaggerating; You're an Idiot [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] |
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