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who hates limping?
i attempted to post about this earlier, but it seems to have disappeared.
i want to know when you guys/gals think it is appropriate to limp. how does the structure of the game and table composition affect your decision to limp or not? i've heard many times, "if it's not worth raising, it's not worth playing" but aren't there lots of times when you want to see the flop cheap against a lot of opponents? (small pocket pairs, connectors) i'm pretty sure limping is more prevalent in limit rather than NL, and in tournaments it's a totally different animal as well. any thoughts on this? |
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Re: who hates limping?
There is a big diff between limping and open limping...the last one makes me want to brush my teeth...
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Re: who hates limping?
so what do you do with hands such as j,10s or q,js utg? certainly q,js is strong enough to play, but I can't say i'm comfortable open raising it utg.
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Re: who hates limping?
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so what do you do with hands such as j,10s or q,js utg? certainly q,js is strong enough to play, but I can't say i'm comfortable open raising it utg. [/ QUOTE ] full ring I fold these...6 max I fold these...I suck |
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Re: who hates limping?
You can't just make a blankey statement like this. I know of tons of live games where i would be limping with glee with these hand and other games i would turbo muck.
The game conditions that make me want to limp here are: -Loose players with lots of multi way pots -Passive preflop in most spots behind me -No one looks like they love there hand and are just itching to raise it up when i look left |
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Re: who hates limping?
It seems that a lot of the better posters on here enter the pot in the 17-20% range, and I just dont see how you would be anywhere near that if you're folding these up front. I can't seem to get mine over the 16 area, and i limp these in all my games.
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Re: who hates limping?
It is very rarely good at a table with good opponents; but at a table with bad players, it can be right though, as your limp makes them limp behind you with bad hands.
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Re: who hates limping?
I'd love to limp in position or even call from the sb in my game, but I'm sure to get punished for it. Though I mix it up, right now I will try limping from late position with small pocket pairs, or hands like AQo,KJo (especially if there's at least one other limper before me). This way, if there's a moderate raise behind me, I can call. Why not just raise myself? I'd rather get in cheap with these hands and have more people in the pot if I hit it. Also, it's easier to let the hand go if the flop misses me because not much invested.
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Re: who hates limping?
These are my rules for limping in limit:
1. When a game that is otherwise good but a little bit tight. Open-raising often tightens up games. When this has happened, you can usually loosen them up by limping with your hands that can handle multi-way action. I would also open-limp in MP, but not in LP. You'd do this only if you preferred a looser game. Some people like tight games just fine. 2. In soft games, you can limp with a lot of speculative hands in EP. Nothing wrong with that. They can stand a raise if there are a lot of people in the pot, but you really don't know how many people there are going to be, so you just limp. 3. In games where people will read you for weakness and isolate you when you limp, there is something to be said for adopting a strategy where you limp-reraise with some hands limp-call with others, and open-raise with the rest. This allows you to play all the profitable hands from both EP and MP without being punished for limping, and you also disguise your holding. There used to be a really good page online with such a strategy laid out, but it appears to be gone. |
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Re: who hates limping?
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i've heard many times, "if it's not worth raising, it's not worth playing" [/ QUOTE ] Whoever said this is missing out on alot of chips. It should be that if it's strong enough to limp, it should be able to withstand a raise behind it. b |
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