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Party $10+1\'s....
Just curious how long it typically takes someone to be able to beat the $10+1 for the FAQ estimate of 20-25%, I have the time to study/play a lot, just wondering if theirs a specific learning curve that many of you could attest to...
I should also note here that I have not had a victory in my last 20 sit & g's...is this normal varience? thank you |
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Re: Party $10+1\'s....
One million games.
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Re: Party $10+1\'s....
just wondering for the people who posted who are multitabling the 11's, how much do they make an hour. Do you think you can make a good salary be merely multitablin the 11', roughly 8 tablin
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Re: Party $10+1\'s....
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just wondering for the people who posted who are multitabling the 11's, how much do they make an hour. Do you think you can make a good salary be merely multitablin the 11', roughly 8 tablin [/ QUOTE ] 8 tabling you could make around $20-$22/HR IF you can acheive and keep 22-25% ROI over a large sample size. The big question is about burnout. I tried 8 tabling for awhile but went back down too four because of the burnout factor. Also it depends if you think $20-$22/HR is a decent living. *shrugs* Either way I guess. |
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Re: Party $10+1\'s....
so what ROI do u think you would achieve by following Aleo Magus' sng guide to the letter, just a thought
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Re: Party $10+1\'s....
I guess it depends on what kind of poker knowledge and skills you have to begin with. I was doing that in the 5s and 10s and 20s almost immediately. When I went to the 25 + 2 turbos on Stars, I got my butt kicked for the first 3 or 4, then I became quite dominant. I am now on the 50 + 5 on Party, and 55 + 5 turbos on Stars, I didn't cash like my first 3 times, but after that I took off. I will say the 50 + 5s and the 55 + 5s are a very noticeable skill jump, but nothing I couldn't handle. I'm looking forward to the 100s and 105 turbos, after I make a few more bucks. After about 60 of the 55 + 5s, I'm up about 500 bucks, which is lower than what I think it should be, but I have been working a lot of kinks out of my game, and think it should only get better.
I realize this is a small sample, but I know when I'm outplaying, or being outplayed, I've played poker for many years. I honestly don't have any idea what my "true" ROI is, but I believe it will prove to be pretty good when I have enough games under my belt for the numbers to actually mean something. Back to the original premise, it depends a lot on what skills you had coming in. If you are already a very good player, it should shape up pretty quickly. If you are not already a good poker player, then this forum seems to be the nuts for SNGs, so read it as much as you can, and you should get there. |
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Re: Party $10+1\'s....
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I should also note here that I have not had a victory in my last 20 sit & g's...is this normal varience? [/ QUOTE ] No, it's not. If by victory you mean cash, then you have a lot of work to do. My biggest streak without a victory is 13, and my biggest streak without a cash is 8. Don't be dismayed though, figure out what you need to improve, and improve it. |
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Re: Party $10+1\'s....
My first 300 10's were breakeven. My next 600 were about 14% ROI, and after that it's been about 23% ROI pretty steady 8 tabling.
8 tabling is so boring now, it's hard to believe that in the beginning 4 tabling seemed like too much. I recommend that you sacrifice some early ROI to learn 8 tabling. Study ICM, K+S charts, and play the first 2 levels uber-tight. If you play 20-40 / day and study 1 hour / day, you will get there in 1000-1500 sngs. |
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Re: Party $10+1\'s....
[ QUOTE ]
My first 300 10's were breakeven. My next 600 were about 14% ROI, and after that it's been about 23% ROI pretty steady 8 tabling. 8 tabling is so boring now, it's hard to believe that in the beginning 4 tabling seemed like too much. I recommend that you sacrifice some early ROI to learn 8 tabling. Study ICM, K+S charts, and play the first 2 levels uber-tight. If you play 20-40 / day and study 1 hour / day, you will get there in 1000-1500 sngs. [/ QUOTE ] I think that this is very good advice, except for the part about 8 tabling right away. First, it is unrealistic to expect someone who is just beginning to beat the 11s to have 2 2001FP's to 8 table on, and without at least 1 second screen, trying to 8 table while learning will lead to overlap hell/horrendous play. My laptop displays 4 tables with some overlap, but it is very managable, and 6 tables is right on the edge of doable with some practice, but I can't imagine what it would've been like when I was first starting out to try and play 8 tables all once on my single screen. Also, 8 tabling right away may not only sacrifice a few points of ROI, it could very easily turn a +EV player into a very -EV very quickly, and it is hard to learn fast enough when you are losing money 8 tables at a time. |
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Re: Party $10+1\'s....
i think after my first 100 or so tournies i was up to 30% roi, which is when i felt confident i could beat it. after that it decreased slightly to 27/28 roi but im consistently beating it 5/6 tables over 500+ sngs now
my 22s however are a different story as im slightly down after 500, after starting the first 150 around 20% roi |
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