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Old 09-23-2005, 03:13 AM
sexdrugsmoney sexdrugsmoney is offline
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Default The Decline and Fall of SDM\'s Bankroll (aka \"I can\'t fold this\")

I really wish I could have folded this hand, but the pot was so big. (I probably shouldn't have even been in the hand, anyways you be the judge)

7 Card Stud High ($2/$4), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $1 (hand converter)

3rd Street - (0.75 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls___calls___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls___calls___folds
Seat 5: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls___calls___calls
Seat 6: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls___raises
Seat 7: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___completes___calls
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___brings-in___calls___calls

4th Street - (11.75 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___calls___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___folds
Seat 6: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets___raises
Seat 7: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___calls___calls
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___raises___calls

5th Street - (11.88 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Seat 6: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 7: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks___calls

6th Street - (15.88 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Seat 6: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 7: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls

River - (19.88 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] xx___checks___folds
Seat 6: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] xx___bets___raises (all-in)
Seat 7: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] xx___raises___calls (all-in)
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls___calls

Total pot: (28.53 BB)

Results:
Main Pot: $110.25 | Side Pot 1: $0.88 | | Rake: $3

Seat 6: [ Js Qs 7d Td 8h Kc 8d ] [ a pair of eights -- Kc,Qs,Js,8h,8d ]

Seat 7: [ As Ks 7s Qh 9s Ts Tc ] [ a flush, ace high -- As,Ks,Ts,9s,7s ]

Hero: [ 5h 4s 4d 5c 6d 7h 3s ] [ a straight, three to seven -- 7h,6d,5h,4s,3s ]
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Old 09-23-2005, 03:17 AM
kschellenger kschellenger is offline
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Default Re: The Decline and Fall of SDM\'s Bankroll (aka \"I can\'t fold this\")

That sucks.
I don't see anywhere to fold.
That RESULT sucks.
But, you played the hand right.
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Old 09-23-2005, 03:28 AM
Roland Roland is offline
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Default Re: The Decline and Fall of SDM\'s Bankroll (aka \"I can\'t fold this\")

Fold 3rd. Fold 3rd. Fold 3rd.

You play too many hands and go too far with them. If you cut that out, your results will improve.
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Old 09-23-2005, 03:31 AM
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Default Re: The Decline and Fall of SDM\'s Bankroll (aka \"I can\'t fold this\")

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Fold 3rd. Fold 3rd. Fold 3rd.

You play too many hands and go too far with them. If you cut that out, your results will improve.

[/ QUOTE ]especially with 3 dead 7s and a dead 4.
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Old 09-23-2005, 03:32 AM
kschellenger kschellenger is offline
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Default Re: The Decline and Fall of SDM\'s Bankroll (aka \"I can\'t fold this\")

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Fold 3rd. Fold 3rd. Fold 3rd.

You play too many hands and go too far with them. If you cut that out, your results will improve.

[/ QUOTE ]especially with 3 dead 7s and a dead 4.

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wait, are the dead 7s a bad thing? because i was taking that as a good thing.
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Old 09-23-2005, 03:50 AM
bigredlemon bigredlemon is offline
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Default Re: The Decline and Fall of SDM\'s Bankroll (aka \"I can\'t fold this\")

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Fold 3rd. Fold 3rd. Fold 3rd.

You play too many hands and go too far with them. If you cut that out, your results will improve.

[/ QUOTE ]especially with 3 dead 7s and a dead 4.

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wait, are the dead 7s a bad thing? because i was taking that as a good thing.

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I presume he's playing 445 mostly for trip and straight outs, and with all those dead 7s, all we can hope to hit is a wheel.
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Old 09-23-2005, 03:56 AM
kschellenger kschellenger is offline
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Default Re: The Decline and Fall of SDM\'s Bankroll (aka \"I can\'t fold this\")

i guess i was taking the dead 7s as you aren't against trips. and your opps. have a dead card.
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Old 09-23-2005, 03:31 AM
kschellenger kschellenger is offline
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Default Re: The Decline and Fall of SDM\'s Bankroll (aka \"I can\'t fold this\")

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Fold 3rd. Fold 3rd. Fold 3rd.

You play too many hands and go too far with them. If you cut that out, your results will improve.

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Isn't he getting 8.5:1 and likely 12.5:1 on this call? and if so, doesn't this justify a call at a 2/4?
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Old 09-23-2005, 07:25 AM
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Default Re: The Decline and Fall of SDM\'s Bankroll (aka \"I can\'t fold this\")

I agree with this in theory, but this is the game with 1/2 a bet bring in. I think I'd call as the the bring in for $1 still, and then you have to call again with so many in I think.

Is it best to fold for the 1/2 bet getting a probable 12.5-1?

Regardless, this looks to me like noone is going anywhere on 4th, so I'd just call there. Then maybe you can try raising on 5th to eliminate some people (though you'd rather have an A and a K than that pair of fives).
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Old 09-23-2005, 08:26 AM
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Default Re: The Decline and Fall of SDM\'s Bankroll (aka \"I can\'t fold this\")

Yeah, you ARE getting really nice odds. And yet I hate it. I can’t really explain why though.
I will say that it should be unproblematic for a more experienced player, but if you’re inexperienced you will get yourself in trouble and make bad calls later in the hand more often than not.

I’d just pass up on what MIGHT be a profitable bet here and find myself a pair of beautiful, live aces. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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