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Old 03-28-2005, 06:13 AM
JKDStudent JKDStudent is offline
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Default Getting sick to my stomach

After winning a lot, I'm now losing a lot. I feel my play has actually gotten better, and I know what my major leak is (plugging it is another matter), but I'm just hurting. I won't post the two hands within a day where my boats lost to quads, but I WILL post this one. Is there anything I should have done differently here?

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP2 folds.

Turn: (8 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, Hero calls.

River: (16 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 20 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hand converter screwing up. He had AA.
Outcome: UTG wins 20 BB. </font>
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Old 03-28-2005, 06:17 AM
yellowjack yellowjack is offline
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Default Re: Getting sick to my stomach

That guy got incredibly lucky that all 4 aces were out, there's nothing you can do about that. He probably gets them cracked pretty often limping like that.

After villain capping the turn, I would definitely just check-call the river.
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Old 03-28-2005, 06:21 AM
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Default Re: Getting sick to my stomach

Check-call river.
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Old 03-28-2005, 10:44 AM
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Default Re: Getting sick to my stomach

His turn play looks like he had A5/A3 or AK - he didn't raise the flop so 55/33 is less likely. We are ahead of these hands and we only lose to the less likely AA. So value betting the river is fine I think.
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Old 03-28-2005, 06:32 AM
cmwck cmwck is offline
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Default Re: Getting sick to my stomach

Don't post results and probably check-call the river, given your typical passive opponent.
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Old 03-28-2005, 08:11 AM
xenthebrain xenthebrain is offline
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Default Re: Getting sick to my stomach

There's nothing you could do against this passive opponent who starts to give you action when he hits trips (must have had his aces cracked often and is now scares I think)
You could suspect AK, A5 or something like that on the turn, but on the river even a flush completed, so I says check/call the turn
When someone plays aces like this you cannot suspect them, even if you think of aces that would beat you on the turn, you must have thought "no way he has aces, he didn't show strength earlier on"
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Old 03-28-2005, 10:01 AM
mlb3zr mlb3zr is offline
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I'd check/call the river. he really likes his hand on the turn, so I'd say it's time to save myself a bet.
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Old 03-28-2005, 10:52 AM
Alex/Mugaaz Alex/Mugaaz is offline
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How could anyone check-call this river is beyond me. You can't adjust your overall strategy becuase of some players who play in a way that defies reason. Unless he raised preflop I would cap this all the way. Then when I lost I would look in disbelief, sigh, then add a note about this player. Don't adjust your overall strategy becuase of 1 crazy person.
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Old 03-28-2005, 12:43 PM
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How could anyone check-call this river is beyond me. You can't adjust your overall strategy becuase of some players who play in a way that defies reason. Unless he raised preflop I would cap this all the way. Then when I lost I would look in disbelief, sigh, then add a note about this player. Don't adjust your overall strategy becuase of 1 crazy person.

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then you are just throwing bets away left and right HU on the river

you won't see AA to often here, but 55, 33, and even 24 will show up a fair amount of the time, after he caps the turn your hand got a lot weaker, not sure if the bet is ok, but 3betting the river is horrible
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Old 03-28-2005, 12:47 PM
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How could anyone check-call this river is beyond me. You can't adjust your overall strategy becuase of some players who play in a way that defies reason. Unless he raised preflop I would cap this all the way. Then when I lost I would look in disbelief, sigh, then add a note about this player. Don't adjust your overall strategy becuase of 1 crazy person.

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How anyone could cap this river is beyond me. Oh wait, there you are. Terrible river play IMO.
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