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I would really like to post more here but I dont know how to get started.
Here is a hand I played(well it's not really a hand - I didnt see a flop) 2/4NL on PS. One limper. Good, tight and a little passive CO with $450 behind raises to $20. I have JJ in BB and fold (I had him covered). I thought he had a big pair or AK/AQ. I wouldn't call this with 22, why call with JJ? I wasn't sure if I could get his stack (or just half of it) if i flopped set. Weak tight? other thoughts? |
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Call.
Its possible that he has Ak or AQ (more likely than AA-QQ), and if the flop comes with babies you can attack him (if he reraises the flop you have to give some consideration to him having an overpair). Also you might flop a set and win a huge pot. You're right not to play a hand like 22 though. Unless you flop a set every card that comes is a scare card and you would always be guessing whether your opponent flopped an overpair. |
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i'd call with 22 every time.
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too tight. his raise is less than 5% of your stacks. you have HUGE implied odds to play for set value.
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gotta at least call here, see what the flop brings. fold isnt correct as you will get paid if you hit a set pretty heartily if he has a bigger pair. This 5xbb raise shouldnt be enough to get you off JJ preflop. If any overs flop and he plays them hard, easy to get away for relatively cheap. I just dont think you can throw this away for a standard raise when its a pretty easily playable hand in this situation.
You really only get in trouble when the flop hits all unders, but then you just have to decide what he has based upon his bets. You could be decently ahead at that point. |
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Agree with both the other posters except i still dont play 22. You have no almost no chance of winning if you dont flop a set and you dont know if hes going to pay you off if you flop a set. (If hes steal raising he might give it up on the flop).
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NEVER FLAT CALL A RAISE WITH JJ. reraise and then put him on a hand if he calls or reraises you. you could be a 4-1 dog, he could be a 4-1 dog to you or it may be a coin flip or a real weak ace 10. never call becuase there are too many scare cards that can hit the flop. very tight to fold but at least you didnt flat call like i see so many other people do with jj, its just horrible.
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nope, still call if you're confident you can outplay him on the flop.
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[ QUOTE ]
NEVER FLAT CALL A RAISE WITH JJ. reraise and then put him on a hand if he calls or reraises you. you could be a 4-1 dog, he could be a 4-1 dog to you or it may be a coin flip or a real weak ace 10. never call becuase there are too many scare cards that can hit the flop. very tight to fold but at least you didnt flat call like i see so many other people do with jj, its just horrible. [/ QUOTE ] this is generally pretty bad advice. you're going to lose a lot of money by reraising JJ out of position against a tight raiser. |
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what do you mean bad advice. its called finding out where you are at if you think your hand may be best. its way to susseptable to call a raise with, and to the person talking about spiking a set on the flop that only happens one in 8 times so you are gonna put 160$ in before you spike one and you might not get paid off for it, sorry you dont flat call raise or fold
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