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[gaming_mouse]

Folding.

Hand 1's villain was unknown. On the turn I was fairly sure he was trying to get rid of other aces. On the river I was less sure.

Hand 2's villain was like 27% after 30 hands. He aggression seemed normal to low, and I'd see no tricky plays from him.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (12.33 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, BB folds.

Turn: (7.66 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

River: (13.66 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, Hero ??

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Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: (5.16 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

River: (7.16 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero ???

[Nate tha' Great]

Hand 1 is a ridiculously easy fold on the river, though there's a good argument for raising on either the flop or the turn.

Hand 2 I call down without thinking about it for one bet. If the player had proven over a larger sample of hands that he wasn't going to play like this without at least trip aces, perhaps I could find a fold.

[Moozh]

Ha, I love it. Nothing like going 0 for 2 to build your confidence! Maybe this is why I don't win at this poker thing...

[gaming_mouse]

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Hand 1 is a ridiculously easy fold on the river, though there's a good argument for raising on either the flop or the turn.

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I considered the flop raise, but figured it would be futile (and vulnerable to a 3bet) because it could so easily be interpreted as a free card play.

The turn raise is a great idea, and seems like the obvious reaction given my read of his raise. I don't know why I didn't think of it. Do you think it's pretty easy?

[Moozh]

I've thought about hand 1 a bit more. I definitely agree with the turn 3-bet. I think that makes the river much easier to play as well. That said, can you explain why you think the river fold is so easy? I can definitely see a fold there, but I also feel that UTG+1 could play a worse ace that way often enough for you to be ahead here.

[gaming_mouse]

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Hand 1 is a ridiculously easy fold on the river, though there's a good argument for raising on either the flop or the turn.

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This was nice to hear, as I folded it and watched the raiser take it down with 99.

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Hand 2 I call down without thinking about it for one bet. If the player had proven over a larger sample of hands that he wasn't going to play like this without at least trip aces, perhaps I could find a fold.

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Woops. I folded this. Good to know for the future that this is so easy.

[PotatoStew]

Does anyone have any comment on my question -- Is it standard to 3-bet AQo preflop against an unknown raiser, as in the first hand here? I was under the impression that a smooth call is better in that situation. Is the hero's position (CO) what makes this a good play, or are there other factors?

[gaming_mouse]

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Does anyone have any comment on my question -- Is it standard to 3-bet AQo preflop against an unknown raiser, as in the first hand here? I was under the impression that a smooth call is better in that situation. Is the hero's position (CO) what makes this a good play, or are there other factors?

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I usually raise or fold, with folding being more common. I don't remember why I raised it here -- probably because the remaining players were very tight and I thought I could by the button.

[Moozh]

Ugh, strange hands. For hand 1, I think that if you're calling UTG+1's raise on the turn, you should call the river. If you don't think you have UTG+1 beat on the turn, I'm not sure your draw to the 3rd nut one card flush is good enough to continue. If you do think you have UTG+1 beat on the turn, then you have to call the river. Based on the turn action, you don't have to be afraid of UTG re-raising the river.

On hand 2, I think this is a river fold. Most likely UTG has a weaker ace that all of a sudden looked a lot better on the river.

[synthtrance]

Hand 2:
why not limp with QKo?
I would call the river.