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Old 06-21-2005, 02:19 PM
onthebutton onthebutton is offline
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Default Clarkmeister definition?

I'm kind of new here, have heard this term thrown around. Can anyone enlighten me?
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Old 06-21-2005, 02:23 PM
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Default Re: Clarkmeister definition?

When you are OOP HU on the river and the fourth flush card hits bet out no matter wou have.
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Old 06-21-2005, 03:39 PM
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Default Re: Clarkmeister definition?

Why?
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Old 06-21-2005, 04:22 PM
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Default Re: Clarkmeister definition?

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Why?

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Ask Clark. I'm just a parrot.

Serioulsy though there are a couple of exceptions I can think of when betting is not correct (usually read based that villian will bet more hands he'll call with and you have a good but not great hand) but as a rule of thumb it's a pretty good one. You can bet with a nut flush or low flush. You can bet with bupkiss. It will be very tough for villian to raise without a flush or better. It will be even tougher for villian to call without a flush giving you a great chance to get a better hand to fold. If you have a good read on the player it will guide your thought process on whether to bet/call or bet/fold. Auto-folding to a raise is potentially a HUGE mistake. The key is that if you always bet you are very difficult to read in these spots, yes even against a 2+2er.
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Old 06-21-2005, 04:31 PM
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Default Re: Clarkmeister definition?

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Auto-folding to a raise is potentially a HUGE mistake.

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Auto-folding as anything eslse auto- (calling, betting etc) is always a bad play. But folding is what makes this (Clarkmeister) play worthwhile.
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Old 06-21-2005, 02:23 PM
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Default Re: Clarkmeister definition?

You're heads-up, out of position on the river. The river card puts four to a flush on the board, but you don't have the flush. According to the Clarkmeister Theorem, you should bet and fold to a raise.
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Old 06-21-2005, 02:26 PM
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Default Re: Clarkmeister definition?

Or better, when you play against a 2+2er and there is a 4th flush falling on the river and he bets OOP raise him with nothing.
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Old 06-21-2005, 03:53 PM
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Or better, when you play against a 2+2er and there is a 4th flush falling on the river and he bets OOP raise him with nothing.

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Or better, when you play against a 2+2er and there is a 4th flush falling on the river bet OOP and if he raises (probably with nothing) reraise him. Do you have the guts?
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Old 06-21-2005, 03:57 PM
A_C_Slater A_C_Slater is offline
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Or better, when you play against a 2+2er and there is a 4th flush falling on the river and he bets OOP raise him with nothing.

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Or better, when you play against a 2+2er and there is a 4th flush falling on the river bet OOP and if he raises (probably with nothing) reraise him. Do you have the guts?

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Well then... from now on whenever I'm playing a 2+2 er and he beats OOP on the river 4flush I'm to going to raise and then cap a 3bet!

That'll show em.
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Old 06-21-2005, 03:59 PM
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Or better, when you play against a 2+2er and there is a 4th flush falling on the river and he bets OOP raise him with nothing.

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Or better, when you play against a 2+2er and there is a 4th flush falling on the river bet OOP and if he raises (probably with nothing) reraise him. Do you have the guts?

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Well then... from now on whenever I'm playing a 2+2 er and he beats OOP on the river 4flush I'm to going to raise and then cap a 3bet!

That'll show em.

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I'll call and win with ace high.
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