Two Hands, Rate my Play (Horrible?)

sebumd · #1 05-11-2005, 01:42 AM

The first hand I think I played horribly--and the second..Can I get away from that?
(Edit...I'm new to NL/6Max BTW..was up $350 this session before I lost these 2 big hands)

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

MP ($0)
CO ($50.35)
Button ($61.69)
Hero ($118.4)
BB ($81.4)
UTG ($6.75)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.25.
1 fold, CO calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($2) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.5, CO calls $0.50, Button raises to $3, Hero raises to $7.5, BB calls $7, CO calls $7, Button folds.

Turn: ($27.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets $15, BB calls $15, CO calls $42.35 (All-In), Hero calls $95.40 (All-In), BB calls $58.40 (All-In).

River: ($253.65) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players, 3 all-in)

Final Pot: $253.65

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Hero ($62.4)
BB ($43.25)
UTG ($61.35)
MP ($117.05)
Button ($62.5)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.5, UTG folds, Hero calls $0.50.

Turn: ($2.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $4, Hero raises to $8, BB raises to $20, Hero raises to $40, BB calls $22.25 (All-In), Hero calls $2.25.

River: ($87) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $87

xorbie · #2 05-11-2005, 01:49 AM

Not sure what you're looking for. You flopped/turned what you are looking for and got all in. Good.

creedofhubris · #3 05-11-2005, 02:56 AM

Both of these hands look fine to me.

TheWorstPlayer · #4 05-11-2005, 03:35 AM

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Really? Hand 2 looks ok to me, but hand 1 doesn't look good at all. OP got all in with bottom set against two opponents who are showing considerable strength and two straights are possible. This can't possibly be good.

TreyOfLight · #5 05-11-2005, 03:47 AM

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OP got all in with bottom set against two opponents who are showing considerable strength and two straights are possible. This can't possibly be good.

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The weak flop raise is a crucial blunder. If you're up against the nuts you need to find out soon. It's essential to blow out all draws right away.

TreyOfLight · #6 05-11-2005, 04:01 AM

Hand 2 exhibits the same class of error. You need to raise this flop, partly because a minbet often means 'I'm drawing', mostly because you want to find out if you're drawing dead while it's still cheap to do so.

As played, I would just call him down from the turn onward. If he's betting top set or whatever, you'll make a good profit while losing the minimum to the nuts.

sebumd · #7 05-11-2005, 12:35 PM

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Hand 2 exhibits the same class of error. You need to raise this flop, partly because a minbet often means 'I'm drawing', mostly because you want to find out if you're drawing dead while it's still cheap to do so.

As played, I would just call him down from the turn onward. If he's betting top set or whatever, you'll make a good profit while losing the minimum to the nuts.

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In hand 2, he flopped the nuts. I got outplayed. I don't think that there is anything I can do here besides realize that he did this or has a set?? There is no way he goes all in on the turn and I am ahead.

xorbie · #8 05-11-2005, 06:38 AM

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Both of these hands look fine to me.

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Really? Hand 2 looks ok to me, but hand 1 doesn't look good at all. OP got all in with bottom set against two opponents who are showing considerable strength and two straights are possible. This can't possibly be good.

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Hero is getting 3:1 on his call without even considering BB. I think you see KJ and a flush draw or a similiar combination often enough that this is a decent call.

creedofhubris · #9 05-11-2005, 07:45 AM

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Both of these hands look fine to me.

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Really? Hand 2 looks ok to me, but hand 1 doesn't look good at all. OP got all in with bottom set against two opponents who are showing considerable strength and two straights are possible. This can't possibly be good.

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Hero is getting 3:1 on his call without even considering BB. I think you see KJ and a flush draw or a similiar combination often enough that this is a decent call.

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If you always get all your money in when you have a set or a 2-card straight on a non-scary board (no pair, no flush, no four-to-a-straight), you will do very well for yourself. If they have straights, or higher straights, good for them; they usually won't.

-Skeme- · #10 05-11-2005, 08:05 AM

And if you can fold a set when you correctly place somebody on a straight, you will do even better.