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Old 06-23-2005, 02:57 AM
JackThree JackThree is offline
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Default player differences between .5/1 and 1/2 @ party

i don't know how to play 1/2

do i play it the same way I play .50/1

what is the difference between .5/1 and 1/2 that makes me need to adjust my play

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Old 06-23-2005, 03:00 AM
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Default Re: player differences between .5/1 and 1/2 @ party

There are a few more tight and, relatively speaking, better players.

It's nothing to get worked about though.

If you can beat one you can beat the other.
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Old 06-23-2005, 03:11 AM
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Default Re: player differences between .5/1 and 1/2 @ party

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There are a few more tight and, relatively speaking, better players. It's nothing to get worked about though.

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- I'm finding it quite a bit tighter.

- I've dropped my VPIP from 30 to 25. Maybe if you played .5/1 at VPIP 25 or lower, it doesn't seem like as much of an adjustment.

- I thought I was raising more, but PT is telling me I'm raising both around the same 9.5% to 10%.

- I'm stealing more blinds.
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Old 06-23-2005, 04:23 AM
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Default Re: player differences between .5/1 and 1/2 @ party

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There are a few more tight and, relatively speaking, better players. It's nothing to get worked about though.

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- I'm finding it quite a bit tighter.

- I've dropped my VPIP from 30 to 25. Maybe if you played .5/1 at VPIP 25 or lower, it doesn't seem like as much of an adjustment.

- I thought I was raising more, but PT is telling me I'm raising both around the same 9.5% to 10%.

- I'm stealing more blinds.

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30VPIP is 5-7% too high at .5/1, 25VPIP is prob a couple points to high as well

and if you are playing that many hands you need a PFR of 12-13ish

its not that tough of game to beat though, a little tighter, slightly better/more aggro players but overall still a soft game


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Because there are much more better players on this stake, you must have a good and nearly complete Pokertracker-Database

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no you don't first off they are a little better, but not much, they don't payoff in general with junk as often, and are a little tighter ... but most of the players are still pretty bad
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Old 06-23-2005, 05:05 AM
aK13 aK13 is offline
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Default Re: player differences between .5/1 and 1/2 @ party

My PT database is very incomplete, and I have no troubles beating the .5/1, 1/2 games (or 2/4 for that matter). PT is helpful, but it is definitely not necessary at all. I'm sure a lot of players here could crush those limits just as easily without it.

At .5/1, a good, loose table ends up being about 8BB average pots with about 40%+ VPIP. A good 1/2 table is about 6-7 BB average pots with VPIP about 35% (from my experience). You shouldn't have to make many adjustments to beat it, just be aware of more aggresive players.
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Old 06-23-2005, 03:01 AM
TomBrooks TomBrooks is offline
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Default Re: player differences between .5/1 and 1/2 @ party

Not the same. There are some threads about this within the last week. Check the list of posts going back a few days.
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Old 06-23-2005, 03:01 AM
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Default Re: player differences between .5/1 and 1/2 @ party

thanks
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Old 06-23-2005, 03:03 AM
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Default Re: player differences between .5/1 and 1/2 @ party

if the players are better and more aggressive, your edge will be less bb/100 than before, and therefore you should expect greater swings in terms of bb/100 over 5k hands or so.

twice the cash means you can play half the tables at the same hourly rate while getting better education / 100 hands. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 06-23-2005, 09:19 AM
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Default Re: player differences between .5/1 and 1/2 @ party

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if the players are better and more aggressive, your edge will be less bb/100 than before, and therefore you should expect greater swings in terms of bb/100 over 5k hands or so.


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Is this true? To what extent are the swings extended? How long do you hang on before a major re-evaluation?
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Old 06-23-2005, 09:26 AM
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Default Re: player differences between .5/1 and 1/2 @ party

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if the players are better and more aggressive, your edge will be less bb/100 than before, and therefore you should expect greater swings in terms of bb/100 over 5k hands or so.


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Is this true? To what extent are the swings extended? How long do you hang on before a major re-evaluation?

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I think to some extent as long as you are reasonably comfortable with the poker in the games, you just have to commit to playing a certain number of hands at the level before re-evaluating, otherwise you'll drive yourself nuts every time you have to rebuy.
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