Tough hand, street by street (w/reads)

[krishanleong]

Villian in this hand is solid and predictable. He is a 23/10/2.1/34 over 1287 hands. He isn't quite as agressive preflop as you should be to maximize win rate. He check raises 4% of the time (playerview calculation not pokertracker) which is pretty solid. Plays good postflop. Makes good laydowns and thin value bets. On to the hand which had a ton of interesting decisions. I'm going to post street by street and post my thoughts after each step. Not every step is real tough but I want people who are new to shorthand or unsure of themselves to take a detailed look at a hand. Thanks in advance for your posts.


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Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero ?????

Krishan

[NLSoldier]

...3 bets without thinking.

[krishanleong]

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...3 bets without thinking.

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Perfect. Even a guy who raises tight (say 6%) will raise a ton of hands that you have really good equity against. You also would rather have the dead blind money than a 3rd player. Against nearly all opponents it's pretty much a no brainer. Keep in mind for the rest of the hand, this guy was a little passive preflop.

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero ???

I had never seen him cap in 140 hands.

Krishan

[NLSoldier]

I really don't think you need the question marks here...

also, in 140 hands it wouldnt at all unlikely for him not to have had a premium hand and the opportunity to cap with it.

[krishanleong]

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I really don't think you need the question marks here...

also, in 140 hands it wouldnt at all unlikely for him not to have had a premium hand and the opportunity to cap with it.

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Your saying it's too easy. Assume for a moment that there were no image considerations and you were going to get up and leave after this hand. Put him on a range of hands for capping. How does this range compare with KQo. IF you give him AA-99, AJs, AQo, KQs (which I think is very generous) you have 30% equity out of position against a solid postflop player. I still call but I want people to think about how his cap narrows his hand range to the point where before the 3-bet you were a favorite and after you are probably at least a bit of a dog.

equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 69.3468 % [ 00.67 00.02 ] { AA-99, AKs-AJs, KQs, AKo-AQo }
Hand 2: 30.6532 % [ 00.29 00.02 ] { KQo }

On with the hand.

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (9 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero ??

I'm looking for a line, not a simple bet or check. Check with the intention of what, at what point will you fold (if any).

Krishan

[NLSoldier]

I'm check calling the flop and turn for sure. I don't want to let him get away from 99-JJ and don't want to pay more to see a showdown vs AA, KK, AQ. I'm not very worried about potentially giving free cards because if I'm ahead he has at most 3 outs against me(unless he has spades which is pretty unlikely).

Once I get to the river, if its a scarecard that I think he will be afraid to raise even with an overpair, like say a spade or a board pairing card, then I'd bet. Otherwise I'd probably check call again.

[mctommy015]

I think i might check raise, and call down if he three bets. Or maybe cap the flop, bet the turn and fold if raised. I'm not sure... one of those

[mlb3zr]

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Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (9 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero ??

I'm looking for a line, not a simple bet or check. Check with the intention of what, at what point will you fold (if any).

Krishan

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seems like a WA/WB to me, in which case I'd go for the c/c, c/c, bet/fold line (re-evaluating with each street, of course).

[bunky9590]

Checkraise the flop, if he three bets its call down city. I can't lay down there unless he showed me a better hand.

[mperich]

This is what THE LINE was invented for. And pf is an easy 3 bet. And the word fold should not be in this thread unless preceded by do not.

-Mike